A parliamentary question regarding the Minister for Health's attendance at an Australian Nursing Federation conference and the ongoing nurses' pay dispute devolves into heated exchanges about the Deputy Leader of the Opposition's honesty, leading to multiple points of order and withdrawals of remarks.

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11 November 2004
Portfolio
Health

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I refer the minister to the Australian Nursing Federation annual general conference being attended by delegates representing 10 000 Western Australian nurses. (1) Can the minister confirm that despite his repeated claims that he wants to work together with nurses, as late as this morning the minister had indicated that he would not be attending this important conference? (2) Will the minister concede that he did not want to attend and speak at the conference because he has failed to resolve the long-running nurses’ pay dispute and is worried about the negative publicity in the lead-up to an election? Mr J.A. McGINTY

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(1)-(2) I am delighted to receive that question. What we all know about the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is that he is not an honest and truthful man. One need only go back to his promise before the last election to give up his superannuation. He has his snout in the trough now. This goes very much to the question he is posing. We heard an example this morning when he went on the Paul Murray program and said things that he knew were not true, because the Electoral Commissioner had told him otherwise. He then came into the Parliament and said that nothing would be put into the letterboxes of this State, when he knew that the plan was to do the exact opposite. There is a very serious issue of the credibility of the entire Liberal Party when it elects a person who is not an honest individual to be its deputy leader. Liberal Party members must stand or fall on his dishonesty. Withdrawal of Remark Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: The Minister for Health on two occasions now has referred to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition as not being an honest person. I think it is totally unparliamentary and should be withdrawn, and he should apologise. The SPEAKER: Any allegation that a person is deliberately not telling the truth is unparliamentary, and it should not occur. I do not know whether the minister said that, but if he did, he should withdraw those remarks. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
(1) Can the minister confirm that despite his repeated claims that he wants to work together with nurses, as late as this morning the minister had indicated that he would not be attending this important conference? (2) Will the minister concede that he did not want to attend and speak at the conference because he has failed to resolve the long-running nurses’ pay dispute and is worried about the negative publicity in the lead-up to an election? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I am delighted to receive that question. What we all know about the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is that he is not an honest and truthful man. One need only go back to his promise before the last election to give up his superannuation. He has his snout in the trough now. This goes very much to the question he is posing. We heard an example this morning when he went on the Paul Murray program and said things that he knew were not true, because the Electoral Commissioner had told him otherwise. He then came into the Parliament and said that nothing would be put into the letterboxes of this State, when he knew that the plan was to do the exact opposite. There is a very serious issue of the credibility of the entire Liberal Party when it elects a person who is not an honest individual to be its deputy leader. Liberal Party members must stand or fall on his dishonesty. Withdrawal of Remark Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: The Minister for Health on two occasions now has referred to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition as not being an honest person. I think it is totally unparliamentary and should be withdrawn, and he should apologise. The SPEAKER: Any allegation that a person is deliberately not telling the truth is unparliamentary, and it should not occur. I do not know whether the minister said that, but if he did, he should withdraw those remarks. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
(2) Will the minister concede that he did not want to attend and speak at the conference because he has failed to resolve the long-running nurses’ pay dispute and is worried about the negative publicity in the lead-up to an election? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I am delighted to receive that question. What we all know about the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is that he is not an honest and truthful man. One need only go back to his promise before the last election to give up his superannuation. He has his snout in the trough now. This goes very much to the question he is posing. We heard an example this morning when he went on the Paul Murray program and said things that he knew were not true, because the Electoral Commissioner had told him otherwise. He then came into the Parliament and said that nothing would be put into the letterboxes of this State, when he knew that the plan was to do the exact opposite. There is a very serious issue of the credibility of the entire Liberal Party when it elects a person who is not an honest individual to be its deputy leader. Liberal Party members must stand or fall on his dishonesty. Withdrawal of Remark Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: The Minister for Health on two occasions now has referred to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition as not being an honest person. I think it is totally unparliamentary and should be withdrawn, and he should apologise. The SPEAKER: Any allegation that a person is deliberately not telling the truth is unparliamentary, and it should not occur. I do not know whether the minister said that, but if he did, he should withdraw those remarks. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I am delighted to receive that question. What we all know about the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is that he is not an honest and truthful man. One need only go back to his promise before the last election to give up his superannuation. He has his snout in the trough now. This goes very much to the question he is posing. We heard an example this morning when he went on the Paul Murray program and said things that he knew were not true, because the Electoral Commissioner had told him otherwise. He then came into the Parliament and said that nothing would be put into the letterboxes of this State, when he knew that the plan was to do the exact opposite. There is a very serious issue of the credibility of the entire Liberal Party when it elects a person who is not an honest individual to be its deputy leader. Liberal Party members must stand or fall on his dishonesty. Withdrawal of Remark Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: The Minister for Health on two occasions now has referred to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition as not being an honest person. I think it is totally unparliamentary and should be withdrawn, and he should apologise. The SPEAKER: Any allegation that a person is deliberately not telling the truth is unparliamentary, and it should not occur. I do not know whether the minister said that, but if he did, he should withdraw those remarks. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
(1)-(2) I am delighted to receive that question. What we all know about the Deputy Leader of the Opposition is that he is not an honest and truthful man. One need only go back to his promise before the last election to give up his superannuation. He has his snout in the trough now. This goes very much to the question he is posing. We heard an example this morning when he went on the Paul Murray program and said things that he knew were not true, because the Electoral Commissioner had told him otherwise. He then came into the Parliament and said that nothing would be put into the letterboxes of this State, when he knew that the plan was to do the exact opposite. There is a very serious issue of the credibility of the entire Liberal Party when it elects a person who is not an honest individual to be its deputy leader. Liberal Party members must stand or fall on his dishonesty. Withdrawal of Remark Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: The Minister for Health on two occasions now has referred to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition as not being an honest person. I think it is totally unparliamentary and should be withdrawn, and he should apologise. The SPEAKER: Any allegation that a person is deliberately not telling the truth is unparliamentary, and it should not occur. I do not know whether the minister said that, but if he did, he should withdraw those remarks. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: Any allegation that a person is deliberately not telling the truth is unparliamentary, and it should not occur. I do not know whether the minister said that, but if he did, he should withdraw those remarks. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Withdraw and apologise. You said it deliberately. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is not an honest person. His track record is one of dishonesty. All members opposite know that. Internally within the Liberal Party they know it is true. Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr M.J. BIRNEY: Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to Standing Order No 92, which states that imputations of improper motives and personal reflections upon members of the Assembly are disorderly. I submit to you, Mr Speaker, that calling someone in this House an dishonest man is a personal reflection and contravenes Standing Order No 92. The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: I think I have already ruled on that. If the Minister for Health has in fact implied that there was a deliberate misleading, he should withdraw that, otherwise the language used so far does not breach the standing order. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: I withdraw any implication that there was deliberateness about that issue. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mrs C.L. Edwardes: It was not a withdrawal. Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: He is dishonest. We all know that. Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mrs C.L. EDWARDES: I thought the withdrawals had to be unqualified. If the minister really did not intend any imputation and did not want to impugn the member’s character - The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: Members should not use the opportunity to have a mini debate. The Minister for Health did withdraw unreservedly. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If I may, against that backdrop, come to the issue that has been dishonestly raised - Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON: This is getting to be a farce. The last time that the Minister for Health got to his feet he said that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition was a dishonest person. That contravenes Standing Order No 92 quite clearly. I ask that you, Mr Speaker, direct him to withdraw that, otherwise this place will become a joke. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: I put two matters, Mr Speaker. First, whether or not people taking points of order is highly disorderly because they are not referring to a standing order - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: Order! Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We have seen many examples of that. I am responding to a point of order. It is difficult when the Opposition has so little regard for the truth that it does not even know the standing orders. Opposition members seek to take a point of order under a standing order when they do not even know the standing order. The second point I want to make is about Standing Order No 92. In an earlier answer to a question today the Attorney General laid before the House irrefutable facts regarding the conduct of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. When it comes to motivation, that could be judged to be outside the standing order. Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mrs C.L. Edwardes: You cannot debate a point of order that has already been ruled upon. The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: I have heard enough on this point of order. I have ruled on it three times. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members can remember it, I come to the question that was asked by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: Order! I am sure that people realise that this is probably this Parliament’s last question time. I am sure that members want it to run its full length. However, it is getting to a point at which we will have had question time for 25 minutes and we will have spent most of the time listening to interjections rather than the answers to questions. Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: If members will reflect on the question, they might remember it was about an invitation to attend this week’s conference of the Australian Nursing Federation. If the member were honest, which he is not, he would have told the House that I was invited to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference. I indicated that I would accept that invitation to the conference. We have been trying to organise an appropriate time that would fit in with other commitments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
The SPEAKER: Order! Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You were given an invitation for four o’clock tomorrow, but you did not like the time, so you cancelled. Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.
Mr J.A. McGINTY: I accepted the invitation. There he goes - dishonesty, dishonesty, dishonesty. The invitation to attend the Australian Nursing Federation conference was accepted by me. I intended to take the opportunity to go to speak with the delegates, particularly about the enterprise bargaining agreement implications and all the good things we are doing in health that are turning around the health system, particularly for nurses. It has not proved possible during the course of this week to organise a specific time that suited both our agendas. Contrary to what the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has dishonestly told this House, and contrary to his lack of truth and integrity, I accepted the invitation. However, although I accepted the invitation, it has not been possible to organise a time that is mutually convenient.

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