❓ Ravlich questions Collier about a drop in apprenticeships despite the State Training Board's priority. Collier attributes the decline to the GFC, highlights WA's relatively strong performance, and accuses Ravlich of negativity.
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APPRENTICES AND TRAINEES
Given that the State Training Board’s “State Training Profile 2009–11” has identified an increase in the number of apprentices and trainees as a high priority, can the minister explain why there has been a 7.8 per cent drop in the total number of apprentices and trainees between February 2009 and February 2010? Hon PETER COLLIER
Given that the State Training Board’s “State Training Profile 2009–11” has identified an increase in the number of apprentices and trainees as a high priority, can the minister explain why there has been a 7.8 per cent drop in the total number of apprentices and trainees between February 2009 and February 2010? Hon PETER COLLIER
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I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
I will try to keep my comments brief, but it will be very difficult because this question really is a dorothy dixer. As a former minister, the honourable member would know that when the State Training Board does its profiles, it works on the economic conditions and projected economic conditions at the time. As a result of the global financial crisis, inevitably there will be a decline in the number of apprentices and trainees. That is inevitable; it is a consequence. However, we have come out of this better than most other jurisdictions in Australia. I have a few figures before me and I will let the house know how good we have been. Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Having said that, of course, we have a long way to go and we are doing an enormous amount. If the honourable member looks at the Hansard from last Thursday, she will see how much we have done. She will see from the comments that she made in respect of this issue — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’re a joke. You’re a useless, lazy training minister. Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I beg the member’s pardon? The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
The PRESIDENT : Order! I think I have made the point before that interjections on the subject matter are tolerable, but interjections of a very personal nature are not. That was out of order. Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I have a thick skin, and I can take criticism, but I can assure members that in this instance, it is just not justified. We have been extremely robust and proactive in terms of where we are going with training. Tonight during members’ statements, the member will give us all that information from the Australian Education Union, because it provides some fascinating detail about where we are and the perception of where we are as a state. I can assure members that I am looking forward to that and to my response. The number of people in training and traditional partnerships in Western Australia is 58.8 per cent, compared with 45.6 per cent nationally. The number of people in training in Western Australia under the age of 20 is 37.4 per cent, compared with 37 per cent nationally. There has been a 7.1 per cent increase in the proportion of total numbers in training at certificate IV level qualifications and above in Western Australia over the previous year—that is, 2008—from 5.8 per cent to 12.9 per cent. I could go on ad infinitum, but I know that other members want to ask questions. I will not waste the time of the house with this yet again because I talk about this constantly, but I articulated in a very comprehensive fashion a raft of different initiatives that the state government has initiated to help lift apprenticeship and traineeship numbers, and they have been successful. There has been a significant increase in enrolments this year; there really has. I go to the state training providers on a regular basis and conduct dialogue with all the industry heads on a regular basis. To the man or woman, to the person who is involved in any area of training, we are all rowing in the same direction. We all have very clear, identifiable targets. We are instituting a number of new initiatives, we are all rowing in the same direction, and everyone is very positive. However, there is one exception: once again, old “Nelly No-Friends”, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, who yet again sits over there, moaning and groaning and bringing down training. Point of Order Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think Hon Peter Collier should apologise; he always says that, and it is very hurtful! “Nelly No-Friends”! The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
The PRESIDENT : Sorry; I did not hear the point of order. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is very hurtful to be called “Nelly No-Friends”! He does it all the time! The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
The PRESIDENT : The point has been made, in jest to a certain extent, but members must respect the requirement to address other members correctly. Debate Resumed Hon PETER COLLIER : Point taken; I apologise to Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich if her feelings were hurt, but I make no apology for the fact that I have not been anywhere over the past 18 months, and particularly the last six months, where the message is not clear. The message is unambiguous: we are doing the right thing. We are embedding within the framework of the training sector of this state the mechanics to ensure that we increase the number of apprenticeships and traineeships to provide for a skilled workforce for the future.
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