❓ A parliamentary question on notice regarding staffing formulas and class sizes in Western Australian government primary schools, specifically concerning early years education (kindergarten to year 3) for 2002, and the actual situation in 2001. The answer reveals financial constraints impacting staffing and provides data on class sizes and teacher qualifications.
AnsweredQoN 831Legislative Council
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The minister has indicated that the Government would support an exemption to the staffing formula to ensure that existing staff are allowed to remain in schools to avoid classes being adversely affected. (1) Can the minister inform the Parliament of the details that the Government promised of the staffing formula in government primary schools for the early years - that is, kindergarten to year three for 2002 - to take into account the 0.5 cohort of children entering the education system who will be in preprimary school in 2002? (2) How many multi-age group classes will be formed in 2002 that will include preprimary and year 1 students? (3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD
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I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(1) Can the minister inform the Parliament of the details that the Government promised of the staffing formula in government primary schools for the early years - that is, kindergarten to year three for 2002 - to take into account the 0.5 cohort of children entering the education system who will be in preprimary school in 2002? (2) How many multi-age group classes will be formed in 2002 that will include preprimary and year 1 students? (3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(2) How many multi-age group classes will be formed in 2002 that will include preprimary and year 1 students? (3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(1) Can the minister inform the Parliament of the details that the Government promised of the staffing formula in government primary schools for the early years - that is, kindergarten to year three for 2002 - to take into account the 0.5 cohort of children entering the education system who will be in preprimary school in 2002? (2) How many multi-age group classes will be formed in 2002 that will include preprimary and year 1 students? (3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(2) How many multi-age group classes will be formed in 2002 that will include preprimary and year 1 students? (3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(3) How many teachers of preprimary classes in 2001 are not early childhood trained? (4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(4) How many primary schools have traded full-time equivalent time for cash in 2001? (5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(5) How many schools in 2001 have achieved class sizes of a maximum of 24 children in preprimary and years 1, 2 or 3? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(1) The Minister for Education indicated the desirability of maintaining staff numbers over and above the staffing formula, but due to financial pressures caused by unfunded commitments of the former Government, this was not possible. Hence, the minister has undertaken to staff all schools according to the K-12 staffing formula. In 2001, the K-12 staffing formula was adjusted to reflect the increased attendance of kindergarten children; that is, from two to four sessions a week. Similarly, the K-12 staffing formula will be adjusted for 2002 to reflect the expansion of preprimary programs from four to five days a week. Staffing of small rural schools will be considered on a case-by-case basis. (2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(2) Schools are still determining their class structures for 2002. The Department of Education is currently gathering information regarding the number and composition of P/1 classes planned for 2002. (3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(3) The department gives preference to appropriately trained and experienced early childhood teachers for appointment to kindergarten and preprimary classes. This year there has been no difficulty in attracting suitably trained teachers for both metropolitan and rural locations, and the department has been able to meet requests for early childhood trained teachers. As principals are responsible for the allocation of teachers to classes, and for the selection of teachers in the case of local merit selection schools, it is possible that some junior primary teachers with experience and interest in early childhood education have been allocated preprimary classes. Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon B.M. Scott: Answer the question. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That answered the question. The member did not like the answer, and that is tough, but it answered the question. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
The PRESIDENT: Order, members! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: The answer continues - (4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(4) In 2001, 16 government primary schools have converted teacher time - FTE time - to cash. Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Peter Foss: Absolute arrogance! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: That is a bit rough coming from Hon Peter Foss. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: Yes, coming from him. Gee-whiz, give it a rest! Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: Yes, he lives it and breathes it. (5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
(5) In government schools in 2001, 442 out of 859 preprimary classes have 24 or fewer children; 360 out of 818 year 1 classes have 24 or fewer children; 266 out of 804 year 2 classes have 24 or fewer children; and 208 out of 784 year 3 classes have 24 or fewer children. Scum - some - Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: You must have been thinking about Hon Peter Foss. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: A few members opposite are always on my mind, Mr President. Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon Peter Foss: We know what you were thinking. Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD: I thank Hon Peter Foss. Some schools have more than one class in each year level. Withdrawal of Remark Hon TOM STEPHENS: I did not choose to interrupt the answer. However, when the parliamentary secretary was giving the answer, I heard Hon Peter Foss say the words, “You arrogant little bastard.” I consider those words unparliamentary, and I believe that he should be asked to withdraw them. Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
Hon PETER FOSS: Mr President, I did become intemperate, and I withdraw those words that I should not have used against that member.
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