❓ Mr. Logan questions the Minister for Water about water supply issues impacting housing and expansion in Onslow, Dampier, Karratha, and Port Hedland. The Minister commits to investments but deflects criticism by referencing past Labor Party inaction.
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WATER SUPPLY — NORTH WEST
I draw the minister’s attention to the dire water supply situation in Onslow, Dampier, Karratha and Port Hedland that is now impacting on housing approvals and expansion plans. (1) Will the minister commit to investing in the relatively straightforward water supply solutions that will allow further land releases in Onslow ahead of the proposed Wheatstone LNG project? (2) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow further land and housing releases in Karratha regardless of the outcomes from the expression of interest process? (3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS
I draw the minister’s attention to the dire water supply situation in Onslow, Dampier, Karratha and Port Hedland that is now impacting on housing approvals and expansion plans. (1) Will the minister commit to investing in the relatively straightforward water supply solutions that will allow further land releases in Onslow ahead of the proposed Wheatstone LNG project? (2) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow further land and housing releases in Karratha regardless of the outcomes from the expression of interest process? (3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS
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(1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(1) Will the minister commit to investing in the relatively straightforward water supply solutions that will allow further land releases in Onslow ahead of the proposed Wheatstone LNG project? (2) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow further land and housing releases in Karratha regardless of the outcomes from the expression of interest process? (3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(2) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow further land and housing releases in Karratha regardless of the outcomes from the expression of interest process? (3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(1) Will the minister commit to investing in the relatively straightforward water supply solutions that will allow further land releases in Onslow ahead of the proposed Wheatstone LNG project? (2) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow further land and housing releases in Karratha regardless of the outcomes from the expression of interest process? (3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(2) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow further land and housing releases in Karratha regardless of the outcomes from the expression of interest process? (3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(3) Will the minister commit to investing in water supply infrastructure that will allow Port Hedland to reach its full potential? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: (1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
(1)–(3) I, like the Premier, feel there is an element of groundhog day here again today! Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : It would not happen if the minister actually did something! We would not be asking these questions if the minister actually did anything! Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The opposition spokesperson for water is very aware of the work that has gone into looking at the options for supplying water to the west Pilbara area. I will talk about Onslow and Port Hedland and some of those specifics in a minute. But yes, we are committed to making appropriate investments to support this government’s vision for the Pilbara. Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : There is no money in the budget—how can the minister do that? Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : I hear the member for Pilbara asking what we are doing in the Pilbara. I suggest he reflect on what the Labor Party did for the Pilbara when it was in government. Essentially, what did it do? We have committed to the Pilbara, and part of that development is water. Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : You’ve got $9 million in your budget for the whole of the north west. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You know I will give you the opportunity to ask a supplementary question. If you want an answer, I would suggest that you desist from continually interjecting. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The Onslow use to date is 0.31 gigalitres. The reserve from the Cane River borefield today is 0.35 gigalitres. To say that we have run out of water — Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : I didn’t say that. You know that your organisation is not releasing land. That’s what’s happening. Answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : That does not excuse us from responsibilities and developing a vision for potential growth into the future. The member has basically asked what we are doing. We have committed to those developments for the water source that we have there. Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Mr F.M. Logan : And there are no future land releases. That’s what’s happening at the moment and you can’t answer the question. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : I can answer the question. I have asked the Water Corporation to look at—it is presently scoping up—the potential to expand the Cane River borefield. We will know the results of that scoping by December. Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Ms R. Saffioti : That’s only short term. Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : I understand that. As I have said, we have a vision for west Pilbara in supplying water. The shadow minister knows those options. What is the opposition’s water policy for the Pilbara? I will tell members opposite that its planning for water in the Pilbara is to just wait for the next cyclone. That is what it has done. It has waited for the next cyclone. In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
In the past, members opposite have said that I am a climate change sceptic and therefore I am irresponsible because I do not have any vision. We understand the drying situation in the Pilbara, as we have in Carnarvon and many areas in the south west of Western Australia. Our responsibility and my responsibility as minister is to plan for the future. The Labor Party did not have any plan for water in the Pilbara. It did not have any plan for the Pilbara full stop. This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
This government and this minister will plan for the future of the west Pilbara. We have completed the expression of interest process. The shadow minister will just have to wait for that announcement, which will be made quite soon.
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