Ms Saffioti questions the Minister for Police about the future of the Ballajura Police Station, given guarantees made about other stations. The Minister avoids a direct guarantee, citing operational matters and budget considerations, leading to heated interjections and accusations of dishonesty.

AnsweredQoN 319Legislative Assembly
Asked
8 April 2009
Portfolio
Police

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COMMUNITY POLICE STATIONS
I have a supplementary question. Given that the Minister for Police has in this place guaranteed the future of other police stations, why can he not guarantee the future of the Ballajura Police Station? Mr R.F. JOHNSON

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As I understand it, there are some concerns about maintaining the Ballajura Police Station. That is the reason that I do not want to make any adverse comments now. Ms R. Saffioti : You’re going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I did not say that. Ms R. Saffioti : You are going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: As I understand it, there are some concerns about maintaining the Ballajura Police Station. That is the reason that I do not want to make any adverse comments now. Ms R. Saffioti : You’re going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I did not say that. Ms R. Saffioti : You are going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
As I understand it, there are some concerns about maintaining the Ballajura Police Station. That is the reason that I do not want to make any adverse comments now. Ms R. Saffioti : You’re going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I did not say that. Ms R. Saffioti : You are going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Ms R. Saffioti : You’re going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I did not say that. Ms R. Saffioti : You are going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I did not say that. Ms R. Saffioti : You are going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Ms R. Saffioti : You are going to kill it off. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wants to answer the question for me, and I am happy for her to answer for me. The member did not need to ask a supplementary question. She could have asked me outside this place. I will give the member all the information she needs at the time of the budget, because obviously the police portfolio has a huge budget allocation for police stations and every area — Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Just guarantee it will stay open and then the issue is over. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Whether a police station stays open or is closed is basically an operational matter for the commissioner. Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : It is! And that is why the commissioner was astounded when he suddenly heard about the new police station being opened at Secret Harbour. The former Minister for Police and Emergency Services knows what I am talking about. Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr J.C. Kobelke : What you are saying is totally false. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, it is not. Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr J.C. Kobelke : The commissioner was approached and he said it would be a great idea, so he did it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, he did not. The member for Balcatta should have a chat to the police commissioner and some of the senior officers there. It was simply put forward — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Members should let me answer the supplementary question. I am not prepared to guarantee that it will stay open. I am not prepared to say it will close. What I am saying is that members opposite should wait and watch until the budget appears, and then they will know. Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Ms R. Saffioti : It is a disgrace. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for West Swan thinks it is a disgrace; I think it is an honest answer to her question.

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