❓ Dr. Woollard questions the Minister about a potentially misleading artist's impression of the Raffles Hotel tower displayed by Multiplex, seeking an independent review and potential rejection of the submission. The Minister claims to have not received prior notice and suggests alternative avenues for Dr. Woollard to address the issue.
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(1) Is the minister aware that the Melville City Council has allowed Multiplex Constructions Pty Ltd to display an artist’s impression of how the proposed Raffles Hotel tower will look from Deep Water Point that is possibly misleading to the public? (2) If not, will the minister ask for an independent examination of the drawing to see whether it agrees with the view of an engineer in my electorate that the Multiplex image is about 24 metres, or eight levels, lower than it would be when constructed? (3) If the independent examination agrees that the drawings are misleading, will the minister direct the Melville City Council to reject the submission out of hand because it contains false information? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
(2) If not, will the minister ask for an independent examination of the drawing to see whether it agrees with the view of an engineer in my electorate that the Multiplex image is about 24 metres, or eight levels, lower than it would be when constructed? (3) If the independent examination agrees that the drawings are misleading, will the minister direct the Melville City Council to reject the submission out of hand because it contains false information? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
(3) If the independent examination agrees that the drawings are misleading, will the minister direct the Melville City Council to reject the submission out of hand because it contains false information? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
(1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
(2) If not, will the minister ask for an independent examination of the drawing to see whether it agrees with the view of an engineer in my electorate that the Multiplex image is about 24 metres, or eight levels, lower than it would be when constructed? (3) If the independent examination agrees that the drawings are misleading, will the minister direct the Melville City Council to reject the submission out of hand because it contains false information? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
(3) If the independent examination agrees that the drawings are misleading, will the minister direct the Melville City Council to reject the submission out of hand because it contains false information? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
(1)-(3) It is a matter of protocol in this House - an understandable protocol - that when a member wishes to ask a question of a minister in a representative capacity the member gives the minister some notice of the question in order that the minister can speak to the responsible minister. I will not and cannot answer this question on behalf - Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member did not give notice of any question to the Minister for Local Government and Regional Planning. Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard: I gave notice well before the close of business yesterday! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will give the member some advice - Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard: I take it you have lost something. This is more of your Government’s incompetence! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
The SPEAKER: Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I understand the member’s concern. I have no idea whether there is any validity in her concern. The member has a number of avenues available to her, because this is not a decision that is made - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Mr Speaker, I am endeavouring - The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
The SPEAKER: Order, member for Alfred Cove! The minister is answering a question about which she apparently has no notice. If the minister has no notice of it, perhaps that should be the end of it. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Four agencies are involved in assessing this development application. Those agencies are the City of Melville, the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Swan River Trust and the Western Australian Planning Commission. The assessment must go through all four of those agencies. If the member believes, on the advice of a particular unnamed engineer in her electorate, that the proponent of the development is producing misleading information, then she is perfectly entitled to build on her excellent relationship with the Melville City Council and take up the matter with it; or she can go to the chairman of the Western Australian Planning Commission, or she can go to the Swan River Trust or the Heritage Council. She does not need us to take up the case for her. Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Mr P.G. Pendal interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No evidence has been produced. An unnamed engineer supposedly has made this statement. We will not run off down burrows on every unsourced allegation made by the member for Alfred Cove.
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