Dr. Hames questions the Minister of Health about the delay in implementing the ambulatory surgery program at Peel Health Campus, despite a prior commitment. The Minister explains negotiations are ongoing and the program is expected to start soon.

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28 September 2006
Portfolio
Health

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PEEL HEALTH CAMPUS - AMBULATORY SURGERY PROGRAM
It sounds like a thong out in the back paddock! Before I ask my question, I welcome to Parliament the students from Glencoe Primary School and their teacher Jeff Dyer, who are in the Speaker’s gallery and with whom I enjoyed a great lunch. I refer to the meeting held about 12 months ago at the office of the member for Mandurah, at which the minister and I met the doctors operating at the Peel Health Campus. At that meeting, he committed, with the support of the doctors, to initiate an ambulatory surgery program at the Peel Health Campus. (1) Why do the minister’s recently released ambulatory surgery figures show 318 cases for Kaleeya Hospital and zero for the Peel Health Campus? (2) When will the minister initiate the program that he promised so long ago? Mr J.A. McGINTY

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(1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I am very keen for the ambulatory surgery initiative to be extended to the Peel Health Campus. It is my understanding that the negotiations between the Peel Health Campus and the government have taken longer than was thought desirable. The last information that I received, which was some weeks ago, was that at both Joondalup Health Campus and Peel there was an expectation that the ambulatory surgery initiative would have started by about now. Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
I refer to the meeting held about 12 months ago at the office of the member for Mandurah, at which the minister and I met the doctors operating at the Peel Health Campus. At that meeting, he committed, with the support of the doctors, to initiate an ambulatory surgery program at the Peel Health Campus. (1) Why do the minister’s recently released ambulatory surgery figures show 318 cases for Kaleeya Hospital and zero for the Peel Health Campus? (2) When will the minister initiate the program that he promised so long ago? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I am very keen for the ambulatory surgery initiative to be extended to the Peel Health Campus. It is my understanding that the negotiations between the Peel Health Campus and the government have taken longer than was thought desirable. The last information that I received, which was some weeks ago, was that at both Joondalup Health Campus and Peel there was an expectation that the ambulatory surgery initiative would have started by about now. Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
(1) Why do the minister’s recently released ambulatory surgery figures show 318 cases for Kaleeya Hospital and zero for the Peel Health Campus? (2) When will the minister initiate the program that he promised so long ago? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I am very keen for the ambulatory surgery initiative to be extended to the Peel Health Campus. It is my understanding that the negotiations between the Peel Health Campus and the government have taken longer than was thought desirable. The last information that I received, which was some weeks ago, was that at both Joondalup Health Campus and Peel there was an expectation that the ambulatory surgery initiative would have started by about now. Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
(2) When will the minister initiate the program that he promised so long ago? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I am very keen for the ambulatory surgery initiative to be extended to the Peel Health Campus. It is my understanding that the negotiations between the Peel Health Campus and the government have taken longer than was thought desirable. The last information that I received, which was some weeks ago, was that at both Joondalup Health Campus and Peel there was an expectation that the ambulatory surgery initiative would have started by about now. Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I am very keen for the ambulatory surgery initiative to be extended to the Peel Health Campus. It is my understanding that the negotiations between the Peel Health Campus and the government have taken longer than was thought desirable. The last information that I received, which was some weeks ago, was that at both Joondalup Health Campus and Peel there was an expectation that the ambulatory surgery initiative would have started by about now. Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for the question. I am very keen for the ambulatory surgery initiative to be extended to the Peel Health Campus. It is my understanding that the negotiations between the Peel Health Campus and the government have taken longer than was thought desirable. The last information that I received, which was some weeks ago, was that at both Joondalup Health Campus and Peel there was an expectation that the ambulatory surgery initiative would have started by about now. Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Dr K.D. Hames : I am not sure whether it has been a year, but it has certainly been a long time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : Yes, it would be close to it. For those people who are not familiar with it, the ambulatory surgery initiative is a system whereby day procedures - for which many people are on the waiting list, and which are often done by admitting people as inpatients in hospitals, at far greater expense - can be done within the public hospital system by treating people as outpatients, with the commonwealth picking up the surgeon’s component of the fee, which can be a significant part of the overall cost. It is a means of increasing the throughput of surgery. Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Dr K.D. Hames : They said they wanted it. They were happy to do it. You have put it in at these other places. Why is it taking so long to put it in here? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : The very short and simple answer is that the negotiations with Peel Health Campus were more difficult than envisaged, because we need to negotiate the price at which the service at that campus will be performed. Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Dr K.D. Hames : Is Joondalup the same? Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : The service at Joondalup should have started. I do not know whether the most recent figures that the member has seen - Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Dr K.D. Hames : It is zero for Joondalup. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : It is zero for Joondalup as well? Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Dr K.D. Hames : Yes. Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : Both those services are in the process of starting about now. I will get for the member, before the house rises today, more detailed information. My understanding is that Joondalup has started, and Peel either started some time last week or will start sometime this week or next week. This initiative will have a major impact in removing from the waitlist a lot of fairly simple procedures that can be performed by way of a day procedure. About 50 per cent of the cases on the waitlist are day procedures; it is a very large volume. By utilising commonwealth funding, I believe we can make a large inroad in the number of people on the wait list for fairly simple procedures. I will get back to the member with more detail before the house rises today.

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