Question regarding the difference between gaming machines at Burswood Casino and poker machines at the South Sydney Rabbitohs. The Minister acknowledges a difference but doesn't specify what it is, highlighting WA's low EGM ratio and praising the Rabbitohs for reducing reliance on pokies.

AnsweredQoN 810Legislative Council
Asked
20 September 2007
Portfolio
Racing and Gaming

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BURSWOOD CASINO - GAMING MACHINES
What is the difference between the video gaming machines of the type that were allowed to be installed at Burswood Casino by the Burke Government and the reel poker machines used by the South Sydney Rabbitohs rugby league club? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH

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I do not really know what the Sydney club has. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : However, there is no doubt that the keno game, for example - Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I do not really know what the Sydney club has. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : However, there is no doubt that the keno game, for example - Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
I do not really know what the Sydney club has. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : However, there is no doubt that the keno game, for example - Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : However, there is no doubt that the keno game, for example - Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : However, there is no doubt that the keno game, for example - Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The Hansard reporter and I are trying to hear what the Minister for Racing and Gaming is saying. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There are gaming machines in Burswood Casino. Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon Norman Moore : You said South Sydney was so good for getting rid of its machines but you are allowing them in Burswood Casino. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : They are not poker machines and the Leader of the Opposition would know that they are not poker machines; they are gaming machines. Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon Norman Moore : What’s the difference? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : There is a difference. This state has been very clear that it will not allow poker machines. We do not have a history of introducing poker machines. Not only that, but also we have ensured that the ratio of electronic gaming machines per 1 000 head of the population aged over 18 years is such that it is no greater than one electronic gaming machine per 1 000 head of that population. That policy is very significant and has been consistent. In fact, I took the opportunity to look at the ratio of electronic gaming machines in Western Australia operating at Burswood Casino since July 1991, and I saw that the ratio has been maintained. Western Australia has the lowest ratio of EGMs per 1 000 head of population. The ratio in Western Australia of EGMs per 1 000 head of population is in fact approximately 13 times lower than the national average. Quite frankly, that is something to be proud of. Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Several members interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Quite frankly, there is a difference. I do not know exactly what sort of pokie machines they have in - Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon Norman Moore : Well you should know, minister, because you are the minister responsible. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know, but I tell the Leader of the Opposition that if I go to Sydney, I might make it my business to visit that club and look at what it has, as it has pokie machines and we do not. Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon Norman Moore : Why should it get rid of them and not Burswood Casino? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : So it should. I praised that club for its position on wanting to reduce its reliance on pokie machines. It is primarily a sporting club and it has ultimately recognised the social costs associated with pokies. These people should be congratulated for the position they have taken, and others clubs in and around other states and territories should follow.

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