❓ Opposition Leader Barnett questions Premier Gallop about the Minister for Education's use of foul language and whether it aligns with the ministerial code of conduct. Gallop defends the Minister's passion while disapproving of the language used.
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I refer the Premier to his ministerial code of conduct which states - Ministers have a high standing in the community and they should provide leadership by striving to perform their duties to the highest ethical standards. (1) Is the use of foul language by the Minister for Education and Training in both the media and this House acceptable and in line with the Premier’s code of conduct? (2) Is it the right example that the Premier and the minister want to give to schoolchildren and to teachers? (3) Does it breach the Premier’s ministerial code of conduct; if so, what leadership and what action will he take as Premier? Dr G.I. GALLOP
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(1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
(2) Is it the right example that the Premier and the minister want to give to schoolchildren and to teachers? (3) Does it breach the Premier’s ministerial code of conduct; if so, what leadership and what action will he take as Premier? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
(3) Does it breach the Premier’s ministerial code of conduct; if so, what leadership and what action will he take as Premier? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
(1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
(2) Is it the right example that the Premier and the minister want to give to schoolchildren and to teachers? (3) Does it breach the Premier’s ministerial code of conduct; if so, what leadership and what action will he take as Premier? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
(3) Does it breach the Premier’s ministerial code of conduct; if so, what leadership and what action will he take as Premier? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
(1)-(3) It is very interesting when members of Parliament ask questions like that. I wonder whether the Leader of the Opposition would pass that test in the various meetings he has as Leader of the Opposition. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
The SPEAKER: Order! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: I start with that comment. I fully understand the feeling that the Minister for Education and Training has about a very important issue. That issue is the assumptions that people bring to the delivery of education. A number of years ago there was a proposal that Balga Senior High School should not run tertiary entrance examination classes. The former Minister for Education will remember that. I was the Leader of the Opposition at the time and I remember making absolutely clear my opposition to that concept. The concept that the children who attend Balga Senior High School will not necessarily go on to do TEE and take up university studies is abhorrent to everything I believe in. I know that that is exactly where the Minister for Education and Training is coming from. Some people say that in our society there is this group over here and that group over there, and we will give that group over there a certain type of education because they do not aspire to higher education. We should treat all people according to their potential and capacity. If we structure the system in such a way that we do not allow people to realise their capacity, then what we are doing is wrong. Every instinct of every person in the Australian Labor Party is opposed to that idea. Therefore, I can understand why the Minister for Education and Training would hold those views. I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
I also note that the context of the comments by the minister was a closed meeting to discuss this matter with various people. Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Several members interjected. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: It was a closed meeting, which the minister then truthfully reported to the media. All those things having been said, I said to the Minister for Education and Training when this matter was drawn to my attention that I did not approve of that language being used in that situation. I repeat those words here today. I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
I ask the member for Churchlands to reflect upon what she has done today. The member for Churchlands asked the question knowing what the minister would have to say truthfully by way of response and then got up and pretended to be an innocent party to the whole thing! The member for Churchlands stands condemned for her actions today. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: I repeat: I understand why the Minister for Education and Training thinks the way he does about these things. I note the context in which he made these comments and truthfully repeated them here today. All of those things having been said, I still disapprove of that form of language being used as part of our political debate.
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