❓ Question regarding firearm use guidelines and Taser maintenance following recent police shootings. The Minister's response is defensive and deflects responsibility, leading to heated exchanges.
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POLICE OFFICERS — FIREARM USE GUIDELINES
I refer the minister to two recent incidents in which persons were shot by police officers. (1) Can the minister assure the house that immediate interim guidelines regarding the use of firearms will be issued to police officers until such time as any investigations are concluded? (2) Given that the latest incident involving firearm use was allegedly necessitated by the failure of a Taser, can the minister assure the house that Tasers issued to our police officers are fit for purpose and properly maintained? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I refer the minister to two recent incidents in which persons were shot by police officers. (1) Can the minister assure the house that immediate interim guidelines regarding the use of firearms will be issued to police officers until such time as any investigations are concluded? (2) Given that the latest incident involving firearm use was allegedly necessitated by the failure of a Taser, can the minister assure the house that Tasers issued to our police officers are fit for purpose and properly maintained? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
(1) Can the minister assure the house that immediate interim guidelines regarding the use of firearms will be issued to police officers until such time as any investigations are concluded? (2) Given that the latest incident involving firearm use was allegedly necessitated by the failure of a Taser, can the minister assure the house that Tasers issued to our police officers are fit for purpose and properly maintained? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
(2) Given that the latest incident involving firearm use was allegedly necessitated by the failure of a Taser, can the minister assure the house that Tasers issued to our police officers are fit for purpose and properly maintained? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
(1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
(1) Can the minister assure the house that immediate interim guidelines regarding the use of firearms will be issued to police officers until such time as any investigations are concluded? (2) Given that the latest incident involving firearm use was allegedly necessitated by the failure of a Taser, can the minister assure the house that Tasers issued to our police officers are fit for purpose and properly maintained? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
(2) Given that the latest incident involving firearm use was allegedly necessitated by the failure of a Taser, can the minister assure the house that Tasers issued to our police officers are fit for purpose and properly maintained? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
I thank the member for the question. (1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
(1)–(2) As far as I am aware, all our Tasers should be operationally okay. I know that the police test them before they go out on duty. If a Taser does not operate properly when it is needed, that is very unfortunate, and I am sure that that forms part of the investigation that the police are carrying out. In relation to the two situations in which firearms have been used, they have been used when the police officers themselves felt that their lives, or the lives of other people, were in danger. The member knows fully well that ever since Tasers were introduced, nobody had been shot until recently. We know that the member is averse to the use of Tasers; she does not like them. Ms M.M. Quirk : We introduced them. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think that Tasers are a fantastic tool for our police to use. Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Ms M.M. Quirk : We don’t like them being misused, minister. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, the member does not like them. She has said many times that she is against them. However, I think that Taser use — Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I am against them being misused. Don’t verbal me. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I would never dream of verballing the member for Girrawheen. She does that herself. Her press releases are like confetti, and they very rarely contain much of the truth, as the member knows. But, still, I am sure we will get a question about other areas in which she has shown an interest in her press releases recently, and I hope that we do, because I have some things that I would love to correct for the sake of honesty and truthfulness. Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Obviously, I am not going to issue instructions to the Commissioner of Police about whether firearms should be used. Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr E.S. Ripper : Can you assure the house that the commissioner will? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I cannot assure that. What the commissioner ensures is that investigations are carried out into any incident in which firearms are used, as the Leader of the Opposition is fully aware. When that investigation is — Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Ms M.M. Quirk : I’m asking you whether you’re fully aware, and clearly you’re not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am fully aware of what has happened, and I am fully aware of the fact that the commissioner will give me a briefing note once that investigation has been completed. Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr E.S. Ripper : You haven’t had one to date? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am aware of what has happened, but, obviously, an investigation has to go into far more detail than just a briefing note of what happened on that night or on that day at that particular time. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Was it night or day? Do you know that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I do. Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Well, what’s the answer? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not talking to the member for Midland—not at all. What I am saying to the member for Girrawheen is — Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You don’t know. You don’t know up or down—night or day. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : For goodness sake! The member for Midland was one of the worst police ministers that this state has ever had. She was useless. This is the former minister who would not take any calls before nine o’clock in the morning. Before nine o’clock in the morning she did not want her beauty sleep broken. Fantastic minister! I have to tell the house that she is the weakest police minister we have ever had. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : I only did it for one year with a child. Try that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : So the member admits that she did not want to take any calls before nine o’clock. Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : I don’t admit that. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member does not admit that; okay. I think she just did. Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : You’ve made that up. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : No, I assure the member that I have not. Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
The SPEAKER : Member for Midland, as in a previous instance today, I was not going to get to my feet and call you to order. However, given that I am on my feet and you have continued to interject, I am going to call you to order formally for the first time today. I instruct the minister to simply answer the question asked by the member for Girrawheen, and I will then give the member for Girrawheen an opportunity, if she would like, to ask a supplementary question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I know that the member for Girrawheen will be hot on her feet in a moment with a supplementary question. Let me assure the member that when the investigation is concluded, I will be very happy to share with her the outcome of that investigation and whether any new guidelines will have to be put in place. But that is a matter for the commissioner at this stage, not for me as the minister. I am not going to get involved in an investigation that is ongoing.
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