❓ A member of parliament questions the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure regarding the data and rationale used to make decisions about the Southern Urban Railway development, specifically concerning route options and passenger projections. The Minister defers answering.
AnsweredQoN 916Legislative Council
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SOUTHERN URBAN RAILWAY, INFORMATION
I have directed a number of questions to the parliamentary secretary and to the minister’s officers regarding the southern urban railway development, and I have repeatedly been told that an answer cannot be given until a study has been carried out. (1) Given the lack of available facts, what information did the minister rely on to make her decision? (2) In particular, did she have any data or estimates as to the figures or ranges of figures for - (a) the number of passengers who would use the train if it followed the Kenwick route and the number who would use it if it followed the Como route; (b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time? (3) In an answer to a previous question, I was advised that the minister had a study carried out to determine the number of extra people who would use the train if the journey time was reduced, and had undertook to table it. Will that study be tabled now? (4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD
I have directed a number of questions to the parliamentary secretary and to the minister’s officers regarding the southern urban railway development, and I have repeatedly been told that an answer cannot be given until a study has been carried out. (1) Given the lack of available facts, what information did the minister rely on to make her decision? (2) In particular, did she have any data or estimates as to the figures or ranges of figures for - (a) the number of passengers who would use the train if it followed the Kenwick route and the number who would use it if it followed the Como route; (b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time? (3) In an answer to a previous question, I was advised that the minister had a study carried out to determine the number of extra people who would use the train if the journey time was reduced, and had undertook to table it. Will that study be tabled now? (4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD
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I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
(1) Given the lack of available facts, what information did the minister rely on to make her decision? (2) In particular, did she have any data or estimates as to the figures or ranges of figures for - (a) the number of passengers who would use the train if it followed the Kenwick route and the number who would use it if it followed the Como route; (b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time? (3) In an answer to a previous question, I was advised that the minister had a study carried out to determine the number of extra people who would use the train if the journey time was reduced, and had undertook to table it. Will that study be tabled now? (4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
(2) In particular, did she have any data or estimates as to the figures or ranges of figures for - (a) the number of passengers who would use the train if it followed the Kenwick route and the number who would use it if it followed the Como route; (b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time? (3) In an answer to a previous question, I was advised that the minister had a study carried out to determine the number of extra people who would use the train if the journey time was reduced, and had undertook to table it. Will that study be tabled now? (4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
(b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(iii) in 20 years time?
(4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
(1) Given the lack of available facts, what information did the minister rely on to make her decision? (2) In particular, did she have any data or estimates as to the figures or ranges of figures for - (a) the number of passengers who would use the train if it followed the Kenwick route and the number who would use it if it followed the Como route; (b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time? (3) In an answer to a previous question, I was advised that the minister had a study carried out to determine the number of extra people who would use the train if the journey time was reduced, and had undertook to table it. Will that study be tabled now? (4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
(2) In particular, did she have any data or estimates as to the figures or ranges of figures for - (a) the number of passengers who would use the train if it followed the Kenwick route and the number who would use it if it followed the Como route; (b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time? (3) In an answer to a previous question, I was advised that the minister had a study carried out to determine the number of extra people who would use the train if the journey time was reduced, and had undertook to table it. Will that study be tabled now? (4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
(b) the period of time that it would take to travel from Mandurah to Perth on each route; (c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(c) the number of stations at which the trains could stop between Mandurah and Perth on each route; (d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(d) the period of time that it would take for the train to set down and take up passengers at each station on each route; (e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(e) the extra time lost by reason of slowing down to stop at each station, in addition to the time actually stopped; (f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(f) the catchment area for each route; and (g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(g) the number of persons within the catchment area of each route - (i) at the present time; (ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(ii) at the time that the railway is estimated to be completed to Mandurah; and (iii) in 20 years time?
(iii) in 20 years time?
(4) If not, why not? Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
Hon G.T. GIFFARD replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
I thank the member for some notice of this question and ask that it be put on notice.
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