❓ Question on Notice regarding cost blow-outs in the southern rail link project, specifically questioning the inclusion of escalation costs in the original budget and the impact on package A. The Minister's response is evasive and contradictory.
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I am glad to see that the minister is here to receive my question. I refer the minister to her claims in this House yesterday that the $48 million blow-out in the cost of the southern rail link from its original budget is entirely attributable to escalation costs and the combination of parts of package A with package F. (1) Is the minister aware that the south west metropolitan railway plan states that the original budget already includes escalation costs? (2) Will the minister advise the House of the total cost of package A, which surely must now be below the budgeted figure if the minister is to be believed? (3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(1) Is the minister aware that the south west metropolitan railway plan states that the original budget already includes escalation costs? (2) Will the minister advise the House of the total cost of package A, which surely must now be below the budgeted figure if the minister is to be believed? (3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(2) Will the minister advise the House of the total cost of package A, which surely must now be below the budgeted figure if the minister is to be believed? (3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(1) Is the minister aware that the south west metropolitan railway plan states that the original budget already includes escalation costs? (2) Will the minister advise the House of the total cost of package A, which surely must now be below the budgeted figure if the minister is to be believed? (3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(2) Will the minister advise the House of the total cost of package A, which surely must now be below the budgeted figure if the minister is to be believed? (3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(3) Will the minister now admit that she is again fudging the figures in an attempt to hide the never-ending cost blow-outs in the southern rail link? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
(1)-(3) What I said yesterday was that there was no cost blow-out; that in our calculations we have $248 million against package F. I am not sure what the member wants me to say. I have explained the reason we have $248 million against package F. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Did it include escalation? Yesterday you said it included escalation. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Yes, it includes the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: So the original $200 million included the escalation? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The original $200 million does not include the escalation. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Minister, I find that extraordinary, because the supplementary master plan says that the escalation has been included in your full budget. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has been included in the full budget. I know that I am supposed to know every page of the supplementary master plan, but I do not actually have it here. If the member wants to wait a couple of minutes, I can get one of my staff, who I hope are here, to get the page from the supplementary master plan that has written into it under all of the proponents another component called escalation. It has $128 million or $120 million - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It is $168 million, minister. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It has an escalation component. We are not putting out a contract called escalation and asking people to bid on the escalation contract. The escalation component must be divided up amongst the projects, which is what I was attempting to explain yesterday. Of course the change in package F will have a concomitant effect on package A. That goes without saying. Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: It will be $48 million, will it? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: No. The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
The SPEAKER: That question is finished.
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