❓ Question regarding the Walpole wilderness area draft management plan and whether the minister is aware of differing views. The minister's response defends the plan, praises its achievements, and attacks the Leader of the Opposition's past stance on old-growth forest preservation.
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WALPOLE WILDERNESS AREA DRAFT MANAGEMENT PLAN
I refer to the minister’s release of the Walpole wilderness area draft management plan, which will include around half the state’s old-growth forest. Is the minister aware of any other views on this matter? Mr M. McGOWAN
I refer to the minister’s release of the Walpole wilderness area draft management plan, which will include around half the state’s old-growth forest. Is the minister aware of any other views on this matter? Mr M. McGOWAN
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I thank the member for the question. On Sunday I had the pleasure of going to Walpole to launch the draft management plan for the proposed Walpole wilderness area and the Walpole-Nornalup inlets marine park. The member for Stirling was there. It was a terrific event, attended by many local community members, all of whom were totally in tune with what the government is trying to do. More importantly, it brings nearly to a close one of the most outstanding achievements in the history of this Parliament: the preservation of some of the magnificent parts of this state in the south west. The magnificent forests in that area are of world significance. It is very important that we preserve them for the future. We have a plan ready to go that will ensure the protection and preservation of not only forests, but also the marine parks associated with them. I think it is a testament to Geoff Gallop as Premier, and also to the member for Maylands and this government, that we have managed to get to this position at this time. It may not have been thus. Some of us were in this chamber in 1999 when these debates were taking place. There was one person in this Parliament who was extremely hostile to any moves to try to preserve these magnificent, ancient, beautiful forests. That person is the current Leader of the Opposition. He was very, very hostile to what was being proposed. Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN replied: I thank the member for the question. On Sunday I had the pleasure of going to Walpole to launch the draft management plan for the proposed Walpole wilderness area and the Walpole-Nornalup inlets marine park. The member for Stirling was there. It was a terrific event, attended by many local community members, all of whom were totally in tune with what the government is trying to do. More importantly, it brings nearly to a close one of the most outstanding achievements in the history of this Parliament: the preservation of some of the magnificent parts of this state in the south west. The magnificent forests in that area are of world significance. It is very important that we preserve them for the future. We have a plan ready to go that will ensure the protection and preservation of not only forests, but also the marine parks associated with them. I think it is a testament to Geoff Gallop as Premier, and also to the member for Maylands and this government, that we have managed to get to this position at this time. It may not have been thus. Some of us were in this chamber in 1999 when these debates were taking place. There was one person in this Parliament who was extremely hostile to any moves to try to preserve these magnificent, ancient, beautiful forests. That person is the current Leader of the Opposition. He was very, very hostile to what was being proposed. Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
I thank the member for the question. On Sunday I had the pleasure of going to Walpole to launch the draft management plan for the proposed Walpole wilderness area and the Walpole-Nornalup inlets marine park. The member for Stirling was there. It was a terrific event, attended by many local community members, all of whom were totally in tune with what the government is trying to do. More importantly, it brings nearly to a close one of the most outstanding achievements in the history of this Parliament: the preservation of some of the magnificent parts of this state in the south west. The magnificent forests in that area are of world significance. It is very important that we preserve them for the future. We have a plan ready to go that will ensure the protection and preservation of not only forests, but also the marine parks associated with them. I think it is a testament to Geoff Gallop as Premier, and also to the member for Maylands and this government, that we have managed to get to this position at this time. It may not have been thus. Some of us were in this chamber in 1999 when these debates were taking place. There was one person in this Parliament who was extremely hostile to any moves to try to preserve these magnificent, ancient, beautiful forests. That person is the current Leader of the Opposition. He was very, very hostile to what was being proposed. Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN replied: I thank the member for the question. On Sunday I had the pleasure of going to Walpole to launch the draft management plan for the proposed Walpole wilderness area and the Walpole-Nornalup inlets marine park. The member for Stirling was there. It was a terrific event, attended by many local community members, all of whom were totally in tune with what the government is trying to do. More importantly, it brings nearly to a close one of the most outstanding achievements in the history of this Parliament: the preservation of some of the magnificent parts of this state in the south west. The magnificent forests in that area are of world significance. It is very important that we preserve them for the future. We have a plan ready to go that will ensure the protection and preservation of not only forests, but also the marine parks associated with them. I think it is a testament to Geoff Gallop as Premier, and also to the member for Maylands and this government, that we have managed to get to this position at this time. It may not have been thus. Some of us were in this chamber in 1999 when these debates were taking place. There was one person in this Parliament who was extremely hostile to any moves to try to preserve these magnificent, ancient, beautiful forests. That person is the current Leader of the Opposition. He was very, very hostile to what was being proposed. Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
I thank the member for the question. On Sunday I had the pleasure of going to Walpole to launch the draft management plan for the proposed Walpole wilderness area and the Walpole-Nornalup inlets marine park. The member for Stirling was there. It was a terrific event, attended by many local community members, all of whom were totally in tune with what the government is trying to do. More importantly, it brings nearly to a close one of the most outstanding achievements in the history of this Parliament: the preservation of some of the magnificent parts of this state in the south west. The magnificent forests in that area are of world significance. It is very important that we preserve them for the future. We have a plan ready to go that will ensure the protection and preservation of not only forests, but also the marine parks associated with them. I think it is a testament to Geoff Gallop as Premier, and also to the member for Maylands and this government, that we have managed to get to this position at this time. It may not have been thus. Some of us were in this chamber in 1999 when these debates were taking place. There was one person in this Parliament who was extremely hostile to any moves to try to preserve these magnificent, ancient, beautiful forests. That person is the current Leader of the Opposition. He was very, very hostile to what was being proposed. Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr P.D. Omodei : That is not true. Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN : He said that that was not true concerning our proposals to save the old-growth forests. Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr P.D. Omodei : Check your facts. Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN : I have a few facts here. I have some of the newspaper articles and the Hansard from that period. In 1999 when the issue was debated, the current Leader of the Opposition - then the minister responsible for local government and forest products - addressed a group of people rallying at the front of Parliament House who were against what the Labor Party was proposing. He described to them the proposals to save the old-growth forests as “a load of crap”. That is what he said on the front steps of Parliament. Back on 23 August 1999 he encouraged violence against those who were protesting to save the forests. He said that workers were at their wits’ end and that there may be some violence and protesters would only have themselves to blame. In other words, he encouraged violence. New members of the Liberal Party should be interested in this because when they go to their party room every Tuesday morning and they get their speech from their leader about loyalty, sticking with the team, staying together as one and getting there in the end, they should know that in February 1999 he said - If the Liberal Party doesn’t give a fair deal to the people of my electorate . . . then I will resign from the Liberal Party. Members opposite are lectured by their leader on loyalty and doing the right thing. They should remember that is what he said in 1999. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
Mr M. McGOWAN : He encouraged violence and threatened to resign claiming that the communities in the south west were on their last legs and about to teeter into collapse. Those communities have never done better. I was down there the other day. The communities are prosperous, happy and committed to what we are proposing. The forests are there because we saved them. If the Liberals had been in office, they would not have been.
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