❓ Hon. Norman Moore questions the Minister for Education and Training, Hon. Ljiljanna Ravlich, regarding the removal of the Curriculum Council's CEO. The Minister's response is perceived as evasive, leading to a point of order regarding relevance.
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My question is to the Minister for Education and Training - Hon Simon O’Brien : We thought she had lost her voice. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am glad you asked it because the emergency seems to have dissipated. It is a big emergency, so let’s go. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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(1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Simon O’Brien : We thought she had lost her voice. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am glad you asked it because the emergency seems to have dissipated. It is a big emergency, so let’s go. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am glad you asked it because the emergency seems to have dissipated. It is a big emergency, so let’s go. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
(1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
(2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
(1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Simon O’Brien : We thought she had lost her voice. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am glad you asked it because the emergency seems to have dissipated. It is a big emergency, so let’s go. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am glad you asked it because the emergency seems to have dissipated. It is a big emergency, so let’s go. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Unlike Tuesdays and Wednesdays, we do not move to orders of the day at 5.00 pm; we move on to business that deals with the interests of all members of the house rather than government business. Therefore, I ask that we proceed. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a simple question. I refer the minister to the answer provided by the Premier to a question asked by Hon Simon O’Brien about the removal of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council in which it is stated that the office of the Minister for Education and Training advised the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need for change and that under his delegated powers he took action to facilitate this. (1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
(1) Was the minister personally involved in the decision to advise the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet of the need to replace Mrs Jeffery? (2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
(2) If so, when did Mrs Jeffery lose the minister’s confidence, which led the minister to seek her removal? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
(1)-(2) I will answer this to the best of my ability. Firstly, I have already put on record that I have visited more than 55 schools in the state since becoming the Minister for Education and Training. I have a walked into hundreds of classrooms and spoken to many hundreds of teachers and school administrators. I have followed the debate very closely through the media and I have listened to talkback radio. I have endeavoured to take on board the issues surrounding the rollout of years 11 and 12 changes for 2006. There is no doubt that during my school visits etc a number of issues were raised with me that have been of concern to teachers and administrators. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I draw the attention of Mr President to the question of relevance. My question was very simple; it concerned the removal from office of the chief executive officer of the Curriculum Council. It has nothing to do with how many schools the minister has visited, which we already know from many other occasions when she has told us. I ask that the minister be reminded that answering questions is what occurs in question time. The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
The PRESIDENT : I believe the minister was putting in context the answer she is about to give. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Absolutely; I was. Issues were raised with me that involved matters such as professional development, support materials for teachers, issues surrounding examination and moderation, external examinations and communication. I put a task force in. The task force made 10 recommendations. I accepted those recommendations. There is no doubt that I had some concerns. My office expressed a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet because of those concerns. I have a right to express a view to the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. The Director General has the responsibility to determine what form of action following consultation with the parties concerned he will take. It is being implied that there is something untoward. Mrs Norma Jeffery has been transferred. She was transferred by the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Simon O’Brien : I bet Mr Robson hasn’t applied for any leave, has he? He won’t have a job when he comes back. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do not know where members opposite are going with this. Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon Simon O’Brien : The minister does not know where she’s going but she needs to go. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have full confidence in the decision of the Director General of the Department of the Premier and Cabinet.
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