❓ Question regarding the Premier's awareness of CCC report comments on a former minister and whether the Premier will direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector to interview Ms. Chong about her use of the term "Godfather". The Premier declines, citing the need to avoid political interference.
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MEMBER FOR BALLAJURA - CORRUPTION AND CRIME COMMISSION
I refer to the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services either not telling the Premier or misinforming him of the former minister’s driving suspension and non-payment of superannuation to his staff. (1) Is the Premier aware of the comment of the Commissioner of the Corruption and Crime Commission, Kevin Hammond, in his report into the D’Orazio “Godfather” allegation that this matter was of very considerable public interest? (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC to use his powers - Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
I refer to the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services either not telling the Premier or misinforming him of the former minister’s driving suspension and non-payment of superannuation to his staff. (1) Is the Premier aware of the comment of the Commissioner of the Corruption and Crime Commission, Kevin Hammond, in his report into the D’Orazio “Godfather” allegation that this matter was of very considerable public interest? (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC to use his powers - Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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(1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(1) Is the Premier aware of the comment of the Commissioner of the Corruption and Crime Commission, Kevin Hammond, in his report into the D’Orazio “Godfather” allegation that this matter was of very considerable public interest? (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC to use his powers - Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC to use his powers - Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(1) Is the Premier aware of the comment of the Commissioner of the Corruption and Crime Commission, Kevin Hammond, in his report into the D’Orazio “Godfather” allegation that this matter was of very considerable public interest? (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC to use his powers - Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC to use his powers - Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Several government members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Although I am sure that members on my right think they can assist the Premier to answer the question, I do not think he needs any assistance from members on my right. Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Ms S.E. WALKER : I repeat - (2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(2) Given that the commissioner and the acting parliamentary inspector have made pronouncements on what they think Ms Chong may have meant by the use of the term “Godfather”, will the Premier now exercise the government’s power under section 195(2)(b) of the Corruption and Crime Commission Act and direct the Acting Parliamentary Inspector of the Corruption and Crime Commission to use his powers to interview Ms Chong and provide Parliament and the public with a direct explanation as to why she used that term about the former Minister for Justice, and Police and Emergency Services? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for Nedlands for her question. I am a little surprised at it, but I understand the political ground she is traversing. In short, the answer to the member’s proposition is no, absolutely not. I remember the whole process under which the CCC and all its predecessors were established. The great issue of the time that everyone was trying to avoid was political interference. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Parliament and members of Parliament at the time were trying to avoid the predecessor of this body being used as a political instrument - along the lines suggested by the member for Nedlands - whereby every time a reference was made to a politician, somehow or other the CCC would be directed to do things in relation to that person. It would be completely inappropriate to do that. I think the member knows that. I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
I was interviewed this morning about various matters and I raised this issue with the journalist who spoke to me. Yesterday the opposition spokesperson for police, which is a very senior portfolio, called into question the credibility of the CCC. He alleged corruption on behalf of the CCC. Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr R.F. Johnson : I said that I have serious concerns with it. I will say it again. I have serious concerns with its handling of the Moira Rayner affair and the affair involving the former Minister for Police. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yesterday the alternative Minister for Police said - I have concerns with the CCC. It looks as though it has been protecting him. That is, protecting the member for Ballajura. I would have thought that it would be matter of grave importance for a person of that status to raise that type of issue in the chamber. I would have thought that it would have been reported all over the place, and I wondered aloud this morning why it was not. It is because nobody takes that allegation seriously. Does anybody honestly believe that the CCC has protected the member for Ballajura? Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Opposition members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is absolute nonsense. If the shadow Attorney General believes that as well, surely that must be reported. That is a major issue. On the one hand, the opposition is urging political interference with the CCC and, on the other hand, it is asserting corruption on behalf of the CCC. It is remarkable and foolish.
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