❓ Hon Brian Ellis asks about calls from the Conservation Council and Wilderness Society to close the rock lobster fishery. Hon Norman Moore responds, defending the government's management and criticising the organisations' stance.
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ROCK LOBSTER FISHERY — CLOSURE CALLS — CONSERVATION COUNCIL and WILDERNESS SOCIETY
(1) Is the minister aware that the Conservation Council of Western Australia and the Wilderness Society have declared that the rock lobster industry has collapsed and should be closed for the foreseeable future? (2) If so, what is the government’s response to this assertion? Hon NORMAN MOORE
(1) Is the minister aware that the Conservation Council of Western Australia and the Wilderness Society have declared that the rock lobster industry has collapsed and should be closed for the foreseeable future? (2) If so, what is the government’s response to this assertion? Hon NORMAN MOORE
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(1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
(2) If so, what is the government’s response to this assertion? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
(1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
(2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
(2) If so, what is the government’s response to this assertion? Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon NORMAN MOORE replied: (1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
(1) Yes. (2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
(2) The Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society today put out a joint press release calling for the closure of the rock lobster fishery for the foreseeable future on the basis that the puerulus count this month has not shown the sort of increase that they believe to be appropriate for the continuation of this fishery. I put the point to the house that we have two scientists representing these two organisations who want an industry worth $400 million to this state to be closed as of now. I am asking the house to imagine the consequences of that for this industry. I also make the point that, although the industry has been going through a very serious period because of low puerulus counts, there is some evidence that the puerulus count is beginning to slowly increase. It is my hope that this increase will continue into the future and that we will have an industry that has a long-term future. The government has taken a very precautionary approach to this industry and has reduced the catch to 5 500 tonnes for this year and the two following years, even though the sustainable catch for this year is estimated to be 6 500 tonnes. We have taken the precautionary principle of leaving another 1 000 tonnes in the ocean this year in order to ensure that next year and the year after there are catches of about 5 500 tonnes that will be sustainable and will provide an economic return to the industry. This is proper management of this fishery, and for these two organisations to claim otherwise demonstrates their ignorance of the way in which this industry works. To claim that we should just simply close an industry because one month’s puerulus count does not meet their expectations is the height of ignorance, and also lacks total recognition of the importance of this industry to a vast number of Western Australians who rely on it for their wellbeing. I just hope that we do not find other groups in the community, including the Greens, saying that we should close this industry when it is probably the best managed fishery in the world. It was the first fishery to get Marine Stewardship Council — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Fishing it out for everyone. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have not talked about the member yet! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Save the best till last. That is what I say! The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
The PRESIDENT : Order! People might be familiar with the Muppets. They might remember a segment of The Muppet Show in which people are in a balcony seat making comments from the side all the time. I am sensing a bit of deja vu. This is not The Muppet Show ; this is the Parliament of Western Australia. Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
Hon NORMAN MOORE : Thank you, Mr President. It is a pity that some members cannot recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is about 400 people’s jobs, and here are two significant groups in our society—the Conservation Council and the Wilderness Society—saying that we should close the industry tomorrow. I think it is a very serious issue. It is a pity that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does not share my concern for those people.
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