❓ Question regarding the government's plan to resolve the long-standing Perry Lakes issue. The Minister's response details the history of the site, negotiations with the Town of Cambridge, and the government's intention to provide new facilities, citing the Town of Cambridge's inability to manage the project.
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Will the minister inform the house of the government’s plan to resolve the long-standing Perry Lakes issue? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN
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I thank the member for that question. I know he has a very special interest in this issue, because when he was a boy - as you can see, Mr Speaker, that was aeons ago - he set a state running record. Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: I thank the member for that question. I know he has a very special interest in this issue, because when he was a boy - as you can see, Mr Speaker, that was aeons ago - he set a state running record. Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
I thank the member for that question. I know he has a very special interest in this issue, because when he was a boy - as you can see, Mr Speaker, that was aeons ago - he set a state running record. Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: I thank the member for that question. I know he has a very special interest in this issue, because when he was a boy - as you can see, Mr Speaker, that was aeons ago - he set a state running record. Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
I thank the member for that question. I know he has a very special interest in this issue, because when he was a boy - as you can see, Mr Speaker, that was aeons ago - he set a state running record. Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr P.B. Watson : I have a point of order. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This is just to show what a champion this man is. He set a state record for the 1 500 metres. I understand that, like Perry Lakes Stadium, it is a record that still stands today, but I would like to think that the member for Albany is in slightly better condition than Perry Lakes Stadium, in which he set that record. These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
These facilities, which were built in 1962 for the British Empire and Commonwealth Games, really have reached their use-by date. Negotiations have been going on between the Town of Cambridge, which was given those facilities - I stress “given” - in the break-up of the City of Perth in 1993. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
An opposition member: Get your facts right! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have got my facts right. If members want a history lesson, this land was purchased in 1917 by the City of Perth - purchased by the City of Perth - and developed over time as a major sporting facility by a capital city that had a vision - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Leschenault! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It had a vision about how sport had to be supported in this state, and what we needed to do was to make sure that athletics, basketball and rugby could be advanced in this state. Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Negotiations in this matter have limped on since the mid-1990s. We came to an agreement with the Town of Cambridge. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Leschenault to order for the third time. Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr M.J. Birney : What does Graham Burkett think about you, minister? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I will not allow myself to be diverted. Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Mr M.J. Birney : Of course not. It is a bit too close to the bone. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : No, absolutely not. Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am extremely sensitive. I keep telling all my colleagues that I am a wilting flower. When I come out of question time every day I am devastated and wounded by the powerful strikes that are made against me by those on the other side, but I press on. After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
After many attempts at negotiating with the Town of Cambridge, considering the number of U-turns that the Town of Cambridge has taken, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that it would be almost impossible for any local authority, particularly a small local authority where the council is divided, to carry off a project of this scale. We have an obligation to the athletes of this state. We have an obligation to basketball and rugby to provide some resolution and new facilities. The Town of Cambridge will not be out of pocket as a result of this. We anticipate that there will be in the order of $50 million of profit in this arrangement for the Town of Cambridge, which, by any stretch of the imagination, is a very generous and profitable deal for the residents of that town.
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