❓ Minister Kobelke discusses the effectiveness of anti-hoon legislation, highlighting impoundment statistics and criticising the Liberal Party for removing a provision allowing community evidence. He urges them to support the new bill.
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ANTI-HOON LEGISLATION
Will the minister please advise the house on the effectiveness of the current anti-hoon legislation? Mr J.C. KOBELKE
Will the minister please advise the house on the effectiveness of the current anti-hoon legislation? Mr J.C. KOBELKE
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I thank the member for his question and his very keen interest in making sure that anti-hoon laws work, and work as effectively as possible. I put on the record my thanks to the previous Minister for Police and Emergency Services, who put this legislation, which has worked very well, in place two years ago. Some 800 cars have been impounded for a 48-hour period, driving home to mainly young men who are fond of their cars that if they use them in a reckless and totally unsafe way they will lose their vehicles by impoundment for 48 hours in the first instance, and have them potentially confiscated if they go through to a third offence. As I said, an indication of the success of the legislation is that 800 vehicles have been impounded but fewer than 20 have been impounded a second time. Clearly the message is getting out to these people that there is a chance of being caught a second and third time, for which the penalties increase quite substantially. However, the legislation that was originally brought into the house, on which I congratulated the minister, also allowed the police to be more effective at catching more of these people who drive like hoons by taking evidence from members of the public. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party in the other place knocked out that provision in the legislation. The original intention was to allow the police not only to impound the vehicle when they caught someone in the act, but also to take clear and substantial evidence from the community, including videos and other photographic evidence, so that if the police arrived later after the burning of tyres, drifting or racing on the road, they could impound the vehicle based on the evidence of the community. For some reason that I do not know of, the Liberal Party in the other house knocked out that provision, so that the police could rely only on evidence from a police officer in person. The bill that we have now brought before the chamber will enable the police to act on information from the community, and I trust that the Liberal Party will not be as silly this time and will back the government and the community, as the community wants this legislation. It is only the Liberal Party that does not listen to the community. The Liberal Party talks tough but has not acted in this case when it could have backed the government - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: I thank the member for his question and his very keen interest in making sure that anti-hoon laws work, and work as effectively as possible. I put on the record my thanks to the previous Minister for Police and Emergency Services, who put this legislation, which has worked very well, in place two years ago. Some 800 cars have been impounded for a 48-hour period, driving home to mainly young men who are fond of their cars that if they use them in a reckless and totally unsafe way they will lose their vehicles by impoundment for 48 hours in the first instance, and have them potentially confiscated if they go through to a third offence. As I said, an indication of the success of the legislation is that 800 vehicles have been impounded but fewer than 20 have been impounded a second time. Clearly the message is getting out to these people that there is a chance of being caught a second and third time, for which the penalties increase quite substantially. However, the legislation that was originally brought into the house, on which I congratulated the minister, also allowed the police to be more effective at catching more of these people who drive like hoons by taking evidence from members of the public. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party in the other place knocked out that provision in the legislation. The original intention was to allow the police not only to impound the vehicle when they caught someone in the act, but also to take clear and substantial evidence from the community, including videos and other photographic evidence, so that if the police arrived later after the burning of tyres, drifting or racing on the road, they could impound the vehicle based on the evidence of the community. For some reason that I do not know of, the Liberal Party in the other house knocked out that provision, so that the police could rely only on evidence from a police officer in person. The bill that we have now brought before the chamber will enable the police to act on information from the community, and I trust that the Liberal Party will not be as silly this time and will back the government and the community, as the community wants this legislation. It is only the Liberal Party that does not listen to the community. The Liberal Party talks tough but has not acted in this case when it could have backed the government - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
I thank the member for his question and his very keen interest in making sure that anti-hoon laws work, and work as effectively as possible. I put on the record my thanks to the previous Minister for Police and Emergency Services, who put this legislation, which has worked very well, in place two years ago. Some 800 cars have been impounded for a 48-hour period, driving home to mainly young men who are fond of their cars that if they use them in a reckless and totally unsafe way they will lose their vehicles by impoundment for 48 hours in the first instance, and have them potentially confiscated if they go through to a third offence. As I said, an indication of the success of the legislation is that 800 vehicles have been impounded but fewer than 20 have been impounded a second time. Clearly the message is getting out to these people that there is a chance of being caught a second and third time, for which the penalties increase quite substantially. However, the legislation that was originally brought into the house, on which I congratulated the minister, also allowed the police to be more effective at catching more of these people who drive like hoons by taking evidence from members of the public. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party in the other place knocked out that provision in the legislation. The original intention was to allow the police not only to impound the vehicle when they caught someone in the act, but also to take clear and substantial evidence from the community, including videos and other photographic evidence, so that if the police arrived later after the burning of tyres, drifting or racing on the road, they could impound the vehicle based on the evidence of the community. For some reason that I do not know of, the Liberal Party in the other house knocked out that provision, so that the police could rely only on evidence from a police officer in person. The bill that we have now brought before the chamber will enable the police to act on information from the community, and I trust that the Liberal Party will not be as silly this time and will back the government and the community, as the community wants this legislation. It is only the Liberal Party that does not listen to the community. The Liberal Party talks tough but has not acted in this case when it could have backed the government - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: I thank the member for his question and his very keen interest in making sure that anti-hoon laws work, and work as effectively as possible. I put on the record my thanks to the previous Minister for Police and Emergency Services, who put this legislation, which has worked very well, in place two years ago. Some 800 cars have been impounded for a 48-hour period, driving home to mainly young men who are fond of their cars that if they use them in a reckless and totally unsafe way they will lose their vehicles by impoundment for 48 hours in the first instance, and have them potentially confiscated if they go through to a third offence. As I said, an indication of the success of the legislation is that 800 vehicles have been impounded but fewer than 20 have been impounded a second time. Clearly the message is getting out to these people that there is a chance of being caught a second and third time, for which the penalties increase quite substantially. However, the legislation that was originally brought into the house, on which I congratulated the minister, also allowed the police to be more effective at catching more of these people who drive like hoons by taking evidence from members of the public. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party in the other place knocked out that provision in the legislation. The original intention was to allow the police not only to impound the vehicle when they caught someone in the act, but also to take clear and substantial evidence from the community, including videos and other photographic evidence, so that if the police arrived later after the burning of tyres, drifting or racing on the road, they could impound the vehicle based on the evidence of the community. For some reason that I do not know of, the Liberal Party in the other house knocked out that provision, so that the police could rely only on evidence from a police officer in person. The bill that we have now brought before the chamber will enable the police to act on information from the community, and I trust that the Liberal Party will not be as silly this time and will back the government and the community, as the community wants this legislation. It is only the Liberal Party that does not listen to the community. The Liberal Party talks tough but has not acted in this case when it could have backed the government - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
I thank the member for his question and his very keen interest in making sure that anti-hoon laws work, and work as effectively as possible. I put on the record my thanks to the previous Minister for Police and Emergency Services, who put this legislation, which has worked very well, in place two years ago. Some 800 cars have been impounded for a 48-hour period, driving home to mainly young men who are fond of their cars that if they use them in a reckless and totally unsafe way they will lose their vehicles by impoundment for 48 hours in the first instance, and have them potentially confiscated if they go through to a third offence. As I said, an indication of the success of the legislation is that 800 vehicles have been impounded but fewer than 20 have been impounded a second time. Clearly the message is getting out to these people that there is a chance of being caught a second and third time, for which the penalties increase quite substantially. However, the legislation that was originally brought into the house, on which I congratulated the minister, also allowed the police to be more effective at catching more of these people who drive like hoons by taking evidence from members of the public. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party in the other place knocked out that provision in the legislation. The original intention was to allow the police not only to impound the vehicle when they caught someone in the act, but also to take clear and substantial evidence from the community, including videos and other photographic evidence, so that if the police arrived later after the burning of tyres, drifting or racing on the road, they could impound the vehicle based on the evidence of the community. For some reason that I do not know of, the Liberal Party in the other house knocked out that provision, so that the police could rely only on evidence from a police officer in person. The bill that we have now brought before the chamber will enable the police to act on information from the community, and I trust that the Liberal Party will not be as silly this time and will back the government and the community, as the community wants this legislation. It is only the Liberal Party that does not listen to the community. The Liberal Party talks tough but has not acted in this case when it could have backed the government - Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Dr J.M. Woollard : What are you doing about St Benedict’s? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : Is the member for Alfred Cove going to support this legislation? Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Dr J.M. Woollard : Are you going to give us a traffic warden? Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : It seems that the member for Alfred Cove has a problem with this legislation. She does not think it is important. She brings up another matter. It does not matter how important this legislation is, she goes off on a tangent and brings into the Parliament a red herring. Perhaps she did not support the government when we made it absolutely clear that we wanted the police to act efficiently on information from the community. With this legislation we are fulfilling the commitment we made in the legislation we introduced two years ago and the promises we made at the last election. This time I hope we will find a Liberal opposition which will understand what the community wants and will support the government, and not remove this important element from the legislation, as it did last time, thereby allowing hoons to get away with hoon behaviour. The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
The SPEAKER : I call to order the member for Alfred Cove for the first time.
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