A parliamentary question regarding elective surgery waiting lists in WA. The Minister defends the government's record, claiming improvements over the previous administration, while the opposition challenges the figures and waiting times.

AnsweredQoN 357Legislative Assembly
Asked
15 August 2007
Portfolio
Health

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ELECTIVE SURGERY WAITING LIST
By way of supplementary question, will the minister concede that 13 000 people are booked for an operation and are waiting for that operation; and that another 14 000 people are waiting to get on the waiting list to see a surgical specialist to get an operation? Mr J.A. McGINTY

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That is not the figure the member for Roe just gave. I am sorry, I thought he said it was 21 000, not 14 000. Dr G.G. Jacobs : There are 13 000 people on a list waiting for a surgical operation. There are 14 000 people waiting to go on the waiting list and another 7 000 people - 14 plus seven totals 21 - waiting to see a surgical specialist. That is a total of 21 000. Does the minister concede that we have a major waiting list problem? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will repeat myself once more for the illiterate members opposite who do not seem able to understand. Under their government the figure was dramatically higher. We have slashed the elective surgery waiting list in Western Australia. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: That is not the figure the member for Roe just gave. I am sorry, I thought he said it was 21 000, not 14 000. Dr G.G. Jacobs : There are 13 000 people on a list waiting for a surgical operation. There are 14 000 people waiting to go on the waiting list and another 7 000 people - 14 plus seven totals 21 - waiting to see a surgical specialist. That is a total of 21 000. Does the minister concede that we have a major waiting list problem? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will repeat myself once more for the illiterate members opposite who do not seem able to understand. Under their government the figure was dramatically higher. We have slashed the elective surgery waiting list in Western Australia. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
That is not the figure the member for Roe just gave. I am sorry, I thought he said it was 21 000, not 14 000. Dr G.G. Jacobs : There are 13 000 people on a list waiting for a surgical operation. There are 14 000 people waiting to go on the waiting list and another 7 000 people - 14 plus seven totals 21 - waiting to see a surgical specialist. That is a total of 21 000. Does the minister concede that we have a major waiting list problem? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will repeat myself once more for the illiterate members opposite who do not seem able to understand. Under their government the figure was dramatically higher. We have slashed the elective surgery waiting list in Western Australia. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Dr G.G. Jacobs : There are 13 000 people on a list waiting for a surgical operation. There are 14 000 people waiting to go on the waiting list and another 7 000 people - 14 plus seven totals 21 - waiting to see a surgical specialist. That is a total of 21 000. Does the minister concede that we have a major waiting list problem? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will repeat myself once more for the illiterate members opposite who do not seem able to understand. Under their government the figure was dramatically higher. We have slashed the elective surgery waiting list in Western Australia. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will repeat myself once more for the illiterate members opposite who do not seem able to understand. Under their government the figure was dramatically higher. We have slashed the elective surgery waiting list in Western Australia. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the Leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : The member for Roe and the editor of The West Australian may not want to know that. They may not want to believe it. It is the truth. When members opposite were in government, 22 000 people were waiting for surgery, and under 13 000 - 12 000 and something - are waiting now. Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Dr G.G. Jacobs : How long are they waiting now? Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : How long are they waiting? They were waiting five months under the previous government and they are waiting three months now. We have a lot more to do but we are on track to achieve what we have set out to achieve in respect of elective surgery. Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Several members interjected. Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : More than 30 000 people were waiting for an outpatient appointment three years ago, when I first provided comparable information to the member for Dawesville. That has now been significantly reduced - indeed, I would say, slashed - to 21 000. We are talking here about outpatient appointments. I put that 20 000 in the context of the 730 000 people who come to our emergency departments in all sorts of conditions, generally chronically ill or seriously injured, and who are all treated. Hundreds of thousands of people are treated, under great pressure. The hospitals do a magnificent job in delivering that outcome. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Dawesville and the member for Murray.

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