Question regarding a new compulsory university fee and concerns that student guild funding will be used for radical political propaganda. The Minister declines to intervene, citing university autonomy and democratic processes.

AnsweredQoN 271Legislative Assembly
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4 November 2002
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UNIVERSITY GUILD FEES 271. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN to the Minister for Education: I refer to the minister’s explanation one minute ago that university guilds will get more than half the proceeds of Labor’s new compulsory fee to be levied on Western Australia’s 70 000 university students. (1) Is the minister aware that the University of Western Australia student guild intends to increase its contribution to the National Union of Students from $8 000 in the current year to more than $50 000 after the introduction of Labor’s new amenities fee? (2) Is the minister aware that the National Union of Students promotes views such as: the armed forces are there to repress, contain and kill, and they should be starved of funds so that they must run cake stalls to raise money, as depicted in this poster? Mr N.R. Marlborough: You were born at 32 years of age. The SPEAKER: Member for Peel! Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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(1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
UNIVERSITY GUILD FEES
I refer to the minister’s explanation one minute ago that university guilds will get more than half the proceeds of Labor’s new compulsory fee to be levied on Western Australia’s 70 000 university students. (1) Is the minister aware that the University of Western Australia student guild intends to increase its contribution to the National Union of Students from $8 000 in the current year to more than $50 000 after the introduction of Labor’s new amenities fee? (2) Is the minister aware that the National Union of Students promotes views such as: the armed forces are there to repress, contain and kill, and they should be starved of funds so that they must run cake stalls to raise money, as depicted in this poster? Mr N.R. Marlborough: You were born at 32 years of age. The SPEAKER: Member for Peel! Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
(1) Is the minister aware that the University of Western Australia student guild intends to increase its contribution to the National Union of Students from $8 000 in the current year to more than $50 000 after the introduction of Labor’s new amenities fee? (2) Is the minister aware that the National Union of Students promotes views such as: the armed forces are there to repress, contain and kill, and they should be starved of funds so that they must run cake stalls to raise money, as depicted in this poster? Mr N.R. Marlborough: You were born at 32 years of age. The SPEAKER: Member for Peel! Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
(2) Is the minister aware that the National Union of Students promotes views such as: the armed forces are there to repress, contain and kill, and they should be starved of funds so that they must run cake stalls to raise money, as depicted in this poster? Mr N.R. Marlborough: You were born at 32 years of age. The SPEAKER: Member for Peel! Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
Mr N.R. Marlborough: You were born at 32 years of age. The SPEAKER: Member for Peel! Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
The SPEAKER: Member for Peel! Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
Mr N.R. Marlborough: It was 42 years of age. The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
The SPEAKER: I reluctantly call the member for Peel to order for the first time. Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: I continue - (3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
(3) What will the minister do to prevent students’ money being spent on radical political propaganda that most students do not support but that the minister will force them to fund? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.
(1)-(3) I do not share the incredible paranoia about student guilds and student associations that is evident in the basis of that question. That assertion and so-called line of argument was run in the 1970s when I was at university. The Government will provide for a stream of revenue to university guilds, on the basis that I have just explained. The guilds are democratically elected by student members on a campus. Some universities will choose to allow even non-guild members to vote for positions on guild councils. Others will decide under the powers of their statutes to allow only those members who opt to be guild members to vote in elections. The student guilds and the university administrations will discuss how that money will be spent. It is not up to this Government to interfere at that level. The basic concept of a university guild is that it should provide funds for services and amenities on the campuses that will benefit students and improve their university experience. I do not share the extreme paranoia that underlies that sort of claim. When I was a university student I paid my guild membership fees; I was not involved in guild politics. I would not seek to interfere in the way the member for Mitchell would in the student guild membership. That is not my role as education minister. Tragically, the level of response to this government initiative is puerile.

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