❓ Opposition Leader Norman Moore questions Education Minister Ljiljanna Ravlich about teachers attending union meetings during school hours on paid leave. Ravlich denies knowledge but expresses support for delegates discussing industrial relations reforms, sparking heated debate about taxpayer dollars and state rights.
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I have a supplementary question. Have teachers who are delegates already attended meetings to discuss industrial matters during school time, and been allowed to do that as paid leave? Is the minister saying in her previous answer that they can again attend meetings in future and be paid although they are not at work? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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I am not aware of union delegates having taken time off and been paid for it. Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I am not aware of union delegates having taken time off and been paid for it. Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
I am not aware of union delegates having taken time off and been paid for it. Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I am not aware of union delegates having taken time off and been paid for it. Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
I am not aware of union delegates having taken time off and been paid for it. Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Norman Moore : You had better find out what is going on in schools. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition has asked me whether I am aware. I am advising him that I am not aware that that is the case, but I can say that I have sympathy for the role and responsibility of delegates in recognising the potential impact on teachers and on the teaching profession generally of the federal government’s so-called industrial relations reform agenda. I am prepared to get some information for the Leader of the Opposition on whether people are attending meetings in school time. However, I do not have a problem with delegates getting together to discuss a strategy for dealing with the proposed draconian changes, so long as it does not interfere with the educational programs - Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Norman Moore : What do you think their children are doing while they are not there? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition may be surprised to learn that there are opportunities in the school day when a union delegate could get about and conduct that business. These include recess, lunchtime and potentially during a duties other than teaching period. This is a very unusual circumstance in terms of the history - Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Norman Moore : You have no concern whatsoever for the taxpayer’s dollar. You don’t have the slightest idea of what it costs. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I will tell the Leader of the Opposition what he does not have consideration for. He comes into this place and bleats day after day about being a state rights person. Quite frankly, he continues to run that line but he never actually takes any action. Point of Order Hon NORMAN MOORE : I am not a minister. The question was: is the minister allowing teachers to attend meetings on a paid basis? All she need do is say yes or no. The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
The PRESIDENT : I do not think there is a point of order and I think the minister has answered the question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I have, but I want to finish off the comment I was making, Mr President. As a person who adopts a state rights position, the Leader of the Opposition is particularly weak when it comes to the protection of this state and this state’s workers. The honourable member could not be any weaker than he is; he is as weak as water. Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I will endeavour to do something ultimately about this minister who refuses to answer questions. The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
The PRESIDENT : Does the Leader of the Opposition have a question? Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon NORMAN MOORE : I have a question without notice. Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Barbara Scott : She does not know the answer. Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon NORMAN MOORE : The biggest problem is that she does not know the answer. That is the tragedy of this minister; she does not know - Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
Hon Ken Travers interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable members. Leader of the Opposition, please ask the question. Questions without Notice Resumed
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