Question regarding the cost and data access of electoral databases (Electrac and EMS) used by WA parliamentarians, with accusations of preferential treatment and misuse of public funds. The Premier avoids directly answering, criticising the questioner's motives and concerns.

AnsweredQoN 696Legislative Assembly
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27 September 2006
Portfolio
Premier

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ELECTORAL DATABASES
Notice has been given of this question. (1) Since the 2001 tender for Electrac and EMS, what has been the total cost to taxpayers for the supply, development, technical support and staff training for each of these databases? (2) What information or data does Electrac provide to Labor members that EMS does not provide? (3) The Premier said on 21 September 2006 that under the new contract information is not shared between members. If this is the case - (a) what information was shared in the past; and (b) has that information now been removed from databases in Labor members’ offices? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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(1)-(3) I suppose as a matter of custom I should thank the member for the question. The question was put to me yesterday. The member did not give me notice that she was going to ask this question today. How long did we spend debating this yesterday? We spent a considerable amount of the Parliament’s time yesterday burrowing down into what this member’s concerns - Dr J.M. Woollard : Why do not you answer this question today then? The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
(1) Since the 2001 tender for Electrac and EMS, what has been the total cost to taxpayers for the supply, development, technical support and staff training for each of these databases? (2) What information or data does Electrac provide to Labor members that EMS does not provide? (3) The Premier said on 21 September 2006 that under the new contract information is not shared between members. If this is the case - (a) what information was shared in the past; and (b) has that information now been removed from databases in Labor members’ offices? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I suppose as a matter of custom I should thank the member for the question. The question was put to me yesterday. The member did not give me notice that she was going to ask this question today. How long did we spend debating this yesterday? We spent a considerable amount of the Parliament’s time yesterday burrowing down into what this member’s concerns - Dr J.M. Woollard : Why do not you answer this question today then? The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
(2) What information or data does Electrac provide to Labor members that EMS does not provide? (3) The Premier said on 21 September 2006 that under the new contract information is not shared between members. If this is the case - (a) what information was shared in the past; and (b) has that information now been removed from databases in Labor members’ offices? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I suppose as a matter of custom I should thank the member for the question. The question was put to me yesterday. The member did not give me notice that she was going to ask this question today. How long did we spend debating this yesterday? We spent a considerable amount of the Parliament’s time yesterday burrowing down into what this member’s concerns - Dr J.M. Woollard : Why do not you answer this question today then? The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
(3) The Premier said on 21 September 2006 that under the new contract information is not shared between members. If this is the case - (a) what information was shared in the past; and (b) has that information now been removed from databases in Labor members’ offices? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I suppose as a matter of custom I should thank the member for the question. The question was put to me yesterday. The member did not give me notice that she was going to ask this question today. How long did we spend debating this yesterday? We spent a considerable amount of the Parliament’s time yesterday burrowing down into what this member’s concerns - Dr J.M. Woollard : Why do not you answer this question today then? The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
(b) has that information now been removed from databases in Labor members’ offices?
(1)-(3) I suppose as a matter of custom I should thank the member for the question. The question was put to me yesterday. The member did not give me notice that she was going to ask this question today. How long did we spend debating this yesterday? We spent a considerable amount of the Parliament’s time yesterday burrowing down into what this member’s concerns - Dr J.M. Woollard : Why do not you answer this question today then? The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Dr J.M. Woollard : Why do not you answer this question today then? The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
The SPEAKER : Member for Alfred Cove, I am somewhat concerned that you indicated that you had given notice - Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Dr J.M. Woollard interjected. The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
The SPEAKER : I am not asking for a debate. I am concerned that you stated you gave notice of this question, and I would like to see a copy of that after question time. You will allow the minister to answer the question. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The member did not give any notice that this question was going to be asked today, none. Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Mr P.D. Omodei : Did you get yourself briefed on it? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not have to. We spent a considerable amount of time yesterday going over the detail of this and we discovered the member’s concern was that she believed some members are able to send birthday cards to their constituents and she cannot. From that point she developed a conspiracy theory to rival the man behind the grassy knoll firing at President Kennedy. She has built such a conspiracy theory around the fact that apparently some members of Parliament are able to send birthday cards to their constituents while she cannot. We went through the whole history of this issue yesterday from day one, when former Premier Richard Court decided, with the support of his party and I believe that of other parties in the chamber, that different software programs would be made available to different members of Parliament based on which party they happened to belong to. A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
A tender process was conducted for Labor members of Parliament and a tender process was conducted for Liberal and National Party members and, I assume, Independent members of the Parliament, and from that point on the two sides have had different software. There is an argument about whether one apparently is superior and costs more than the other, but I think that is independent of the basis of the conspiracy theory that has been worked up, supported by a fascinating piece of information the member elicited yesterday: that in New South Wales, not Western Australia, members of some unions are provided with software IT training. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It is quite an amazing feat of mental agility that from those two points - birthday cards and training programs in New South Wales - the member for Alfred Cove came to some sort of corruption conspiracy theory landing here in the Western Australian Parliament. I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
I advise the member that if she wants to know the birth dates of her constituents she should get out and do what other active members of Parliament have done - doorknock them, as I have done, meet them and ask them, if she wants to send them a birthday card, "Can you give me your birth date so I can send a birthday card?" This is one of the most ridiculous wastes of Parliament’s time that we have come across. The other thing we noted yesterday is that apparently eight members of the Liberal Party are using a system called Feedback, for which they want public support, and which relies upon the Australian Electoral Commission for its database. The Australian Electoral Commission has said it refuses to provide state members of Parliament access to its database. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : No, that is the Western Australian Electoral Commission. There is a subtle but important difference. Every time we get on a plane we are told, "Each aircraft is subtly different.” There is a subtle difference between the Western Australian Electoral Commission and the Australian Electoral Commission. Members opposite should learn the subtle difference and then restructure their bid for a software package for the Liberal Party.

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