❓ Premier Carpenter confirms the daylight saving trial will continue for its third year as legislated, despite personal reservations. He criticises the Liberal and National Party leaders' stances on the issue, particularly the National Party leader's apparent change of heart.
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DAYLIGHT SAVING TRIAL
With the completion of the second summer of the daylight saving trial, will the Premier please outline to the house whether he supports proceeding with the third year of the trial, as enshrined in the daylight saving legislation? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
With the completion of the second summer of the daylight saving trial, will the Premier please outline to the house whether he supports proceeding with the third year of the trial, as enshrined in the daylight saving legislation? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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I thank the member for the question. I love the issue of daylight saving. It is a wonderful issue. Everybody has got a view on it. I have made it quite clear that it is not exactly ideal for my personal lifestyle. I do not particularly like getting up in the dark and going and doing what I do early in the morning at the beach in the dark. It does not suit my lifestyle, nor does it suit the lifestyle of a lot of people who do what I do early in the morning. However, as I said when I was interviewed about it yesterday or the day before, with an issue like daylight saving one has to think beyond one’s own personal preferences and think about what is good for the general community. I believe that daylight saving, on balance, is good for the Western Australian community. I think it is good for business in the state and I think it would be a shame if, when it does go to a referendum, it gets voted against. However, on Thursday or Friday, when I was asked about bringing the trial to a pre-emptive close, I said I did not believe that the two-and-a-half-year trial period, which had pretty strong support in Parliament, should be abandoned. However, I believe that after the trial is over and a referendum is held, there is a good case for pulling back the daylight saving period, and instead of it ending at the end of March, ending it in the middle of March because of issues such as the time that the sun rises over the west coast as opposed to other parts of Australia. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. I love the issue of daylight saving. It is a wonderful issue. Everybody has got a view on it. I have made it quite clear that it is not exactly ideal for my personal lifestyle. I do not particularly like getting up in the dark and going and doing what I do early in the morning at the beach in the dark. It does not suit my lifestyle, nor does it suit the lifestyle of a lot of people who do what I do early in the morning. However, as I said when I was interviewed about it yesterday or the day before, with an issue like daylight saving one has to think beyond one’s own personal preferences and think about what is good for the general community. I believe that daylight saving, on balance, is good for the Western Australian community. I think it is good for business in the state and I think it would be a shame if, when it does go to a referendum, it gets voted against. However, on Thursday or Friday, when I was asked about bringing the trial to a pre-emptive close, I said I did not believe that the two-and-a-half-year trial period, which had pretty strong support in Parliament, should be abandoned. However, I believe that after the trial is over and a referendum is held, there is a good case for pulling back the daylight saving period, and instead of it ending at the end of March, ending it in the middle of March because of issues such as the time that the sun rises over the west coast as opposed to other parts of Australia. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
I thank the member for the question. I love the issue of daylight saving. It is a wonderful issue. Everybody has got a view on it. I have made it quite clear that it is not exactly ideal for my personal lifestyle. I do not particularly like getting up in the dark and going and doing what I do early in the morning at the beach in the dark. It does not suit my lifestyle, nor does it suit the lifestyle of a lot of people who do what I do early in the morning. However, as I said when I was interviewed about it yesterday or the day before, with an issue like daylight saving one has to think beyond one’s own personal preferences and think about what is good for the general community. I believe that daylight saving, on balance, is good for the Western Australian community. I think it is good for business in the state and I think it would be a shame if, when it does go to a referendum, it gets voted against. However, on Thursday or Friday, when I was asked about bringing the trial to a pre-emptive close, I said I did not believe that the two-and-a-half-year trial period, which had pretty strong support in Parliament, should be abandoned. However, I believe that after the trial is over and a referendum is held, there is a good case for pulling back the daylight saving period, and instead of it ending at the end of March, ending it in the middle of March because of issues such as the time that the sun rises over the west coast as opposed to other parts of Australia. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
“We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: I thank the member for the question. I love the issue of daylight saving. It is a wonderful issue. Everybody has got a view on it. I have made it quite clear that it is not exactly ideal for my personal lifestyle. I do not particularly like getting up in the dark and going and doing what I do early in the morning at the beach in the dark. It does not suit my lifestyle, nor does it suit the lifestyle of a lot of people who do what I do early in the morning. However, as I said when I was interviewed about it yesterday or the day before, with an issue like daylight saving one has to think beyond one’s own personal preferences and think about what is good for the general community. I believe that daylight saving, on balance, is good for the Western Australian community. I think it is good for business in the state and I think it would be a shame if, when it does go to a referendum, it gets voted against. However, on Thursday or Friday, when I was asked about bringing the trial to a pre-emptive close, I said I did not believe that the two-and-a-half-year trial period, which had pretty strong support in Parliament, should be abandoned. However, I believe that after the trial is over and a referendum is held, there is a good case for pulling back the daylight saving period, and instead of it ending at the end of March, ending it in the middle of March because of issues such as the time that the sun rises over the west coast as opposed to other parts of Australia. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
I thank the member for the question. I love the issue of daylight saving. It is a wonderful issue. Everybody has got a view on it. I have made it quite clear that it is not exactly ideal for my personal lifestyle. I do not particularly like getting up in the dark and going and doing what I do early in the morning at the beach in the dark. It does not suit my lifestyle, nor does it suit the lifestyle of a lot of people who do what I do early in the morning. However, as I said when I was interviewed about it yesterday or the day before, with an issue like daylight saving one has to think beyond one’s own personal preferences and think about what is good for the general community. I believe that daylight saving, on balance, is good for the Western Australian community. I think it is good for business in the state and I think it would be a shame if, when it does go to a referendum, it gets voted against. However, on Thursday or Friday, when I was asked about bringing the trial to a pre-emptive close, I said I did not believe that the two-and-a-half-year trial period, which had pretty strong support in Parliament, should be abandoned. However, I believe that after the trial is over and a referendum is held, there is a good case for pulling back the daylight saving period, and instead of it ending at the end of March, ending it in the middle of March because of issues such as the time that the sun rises over the west coast as opposed to other parts of Australia. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not think there is a problem with that. I have spoken to a lot of people about it. I spoke to a lot of people yesterday at a meeting about it and there was pretty good support for it. What I do find disappointing, I suppose, is the attitude of some members of Parliament, particularly the leadership of the Liberal Party and, I regret to say, the leadership of the National Party, if the Leader of the National Party can call his performance on this issue leadership. I recall when the Leader of the National Party was the brave new face of the National Party; he was the young Turk of the National Party and was out in the community telling people — Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr B.J. Grylls : You claimed it was a virtue. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have all the quotes but I will not embarrass the Leader of the National Party. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party was out in the community telling the state of Western Australia that, irrespective of the National Party’s historical resistance to daylight saving, he would go out there and be bold and brave. He said that he would take the National Party into a brave new era by representing what he said were the views of all—not some—of the young people in his demographic who would support daylight saving. He said something like, “Sometimes political leaders have to be brave and strong and get out there, irrespective of — Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr M.J. Birney : Premier, he said he wasn’t in it for the easy press release. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I thank the member for Kalgoorlie. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The first sign of trouble and now the Leader of the National Party is saying that it was a terrible decision and should never have happened. He actually said something like, “There have been referenda on this issue before, but so what? Let’s see if all the young people will vote.” Now he is saying it is a waste of time. Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr B.J. Grylls : I have no problem with that. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the National Party’s position on daylight saving is as embarrassing for him as is his position on retail trading. National Party members had no idea, until I pointed it out to them, that all their electorates have deregulated trading. Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The National Party has no idea about daylight saving. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I do not want to create the wrong impression about my relationship with the member for Kalgoorlie, but I think he is right on this issue again. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Leader of the Opposition was quoted yesterday in The West Australian saying that we should end the trial and that two years was enough. That is the now Liberal Party leader’s position, although he was categorised once as a supporter of daylight saving. Was that a mistake? Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell : Where? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I have the list with me. The West Australian rang all members of Parliament and asked them their position. Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell : Do you know what I did? I put an ad in the local newspaper and had hundreds and hundreds of people contact my electorate office, and I voted — Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Okay, so the Leader of the Opposition shaped his opinion on the basis of the response he got to an ad in the local newspaper, rather than have the courage of his convictions. Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr T. Buswell : I represent my electorate, heaven forbid! I come into this place and represent my electorate! Isn’t that awful? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Never mind. These are the distinctive qualities that the Leader of the Opposition lacks. The West Australian states — Liberal MP Matt Birney, who co-sponsored the daylight saving Bill with Independent MP John D’Orazio in 2006, said the three-year trial was essential to settling the debate. “We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said. That is a very sound piece of analysis; I agree with the member for Kalgoorlie. We will not be supporting any move to cut short the trial. I would, though, support a suggestion that the model of question to be asked at the referendum in mid-2009 be about ending the daylight saving period in the middle rather than the end of March. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
“We should go the distance because if you bring the referendum forward then inevitably the people who don’t get their way will blame the fact that the trial was cut short,” he said.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I think that would be a reasonable question to ask at the referendum. There were 13 days of parliamentary debate on daylight saving to get to this position. I do not support any move to go through that again unnecessarily.
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